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  • _Rexy_
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    #61
    Originally posted by Superbee

    No, but Fast Eddy was prone to make it known that they are "worried" ... Also... he says they know about about since December... If it was such a concern from them, why bringing it now ?
    It’s been since December??

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    • M312
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      #62
      Originally posted by Superbee

      No, but Fast Eddy was prone to make it known that they are "worried" ... Also... he says they know about about since December... If it was such a concern from them, why bringing it now ?
      Because it was released to the public and he was asked. He didn't bring it up.

      I don't get it.

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        #63
        Originally posted by _Rexy_

        It’s been since December??
        That's what Eddy says in the clip ...

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        • M312
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          #64
          Originally posted by _Rexy_

          It’s been since December??
          All parties were made aware mid Dec apparently.

          It's now been released to the public today. Not by Hearn - it's just a reaction video.

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            #65
            Originally posted by dan-b

            Sure, but being "atypical" suggests it was noteworthy enough for VADA to report it. One need not take an absolute position between it being (1) nothing or (2) evidence of PED use.

            What one should do - in my opinion - is put aside one's allegiances and demand better governance of the sport so we don't have to rely on a self-interested businessman like Eddie Hearn to report this stuff.

            Or join the "everyone's at it" brigade, turn a blind eye to it, and support Conor Benn, presumably.
            I agree

            We also need clarity on how these VADA tests are conducted and what the threshhold for "atypical" and "adverse" means. When do they cross over? Also, what is the reference point?

            You could test the same person months apart and their blood levels could be "atypical" on the second test.

            We need clarity.

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              #66
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              ShoulderRoll goes as far as to say Canelo is "likely clean" because he passed some VADA tests after testing positive twice for PEDs.

              At the same time says Francis Ngannou is "assuredly on PEDs" because of his physique. Despite the fact Ngannou has been in a 24/7 365 USADA program for a decade and has never failed a test and has also passed a VADA test.

              The levels of ******ity are so high you'd think it's satire.
              He also says the evil russians are dirty cheats but fails to mention that the biggest ped cheats ever are americans.

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                #67
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                I just hope Callum isn’t seriously hurt or injured by this man.
                As per the interview they’ve all known since December 6th. So clearly they’re not concerned or they’d have pulled out of the fight.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by M312
                  I don't get it.
                  I do. A subset of boxing fans is irrational when it comes to Hearn. I don't particularly like the guy, he's pretty dull when you strip away the bluster. But I think he stirs a lot envy in some men, it's the only way to explain the level of anger and bitterness he evokes.

                  In case it need be said, that's not to say he shouldn't be criticised. But he's just a symptom of boxing's problems at the end of the day.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Loque-san

                    He also says the evil russians are dirty cheats but fails to mention that the biggest ped cheats ever are americans.
                    I think Mexican fighters hold that honour. Remember when Mauricio even said they werent going to fail guys for Clen unless it’s at high levels?

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                    • jaded
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                      #70
                      Doesn't mean anything...

                      If your 5alpha-DHT is increased this would be an indication that you are favoring the alpha pathway that’s quite aggressive on your skin, hair and other places. The reasons for your body choosing the alpha pathway can certainly be genetic, but it is often due to inflammation, blood sugar / insulin dysregulation, having extra adipose tissue, etc.. If you can address these underlying issues then your body will balance out the alpha and beta pathways and it will improve the symptoms.


                      5b-Androstanediol is a testosterone metabolite that is less androgenic than 5a-DHT and 5a-Androstanediol. It is meta…

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