So Beterbiev tested for high levels of HGH and testosterone

[IronDanHamza]

A lot of us on here have fought in the ring, taken PED's etc. So maybe you shouldn't chit on someone who may know what they're talking about just because they have a ring girl avatar.

It was the contents of what you said that gave that impression.

[ShoulderRoll]

Russians have a LONG history of doping. Can't even compete in the Olympics as a country any more because they're such blatant cheats, and they're still doing it anyways.

That is certainly true. Their entire Olympic team was banned.

[ShoulderRoll]

Do you understand that he hasn't tested positive for a PED?

I’m reading through the story now. He hasn’t actually broken any rules…

[dan-b]

He didnt fail a test

The findings are "atypical" and not "adverse"

Connor Benn was "adverse" (ie through the roof)

Everyone has a different genetic profile

Some people find it easier to burn fat and gain muscle - thus they have "atypical" HGH and testosterone levels.

VADA are also very strict too. They can literally detect 1 in 1,000,000 particles for banned substances. So if they are saying it's not a fail then it is not a fail.

People need to educate themselves better.

PEDs have been an issue for decades and science is good at catching people but people still don't have a clue how PEDs testing works and what the difference between simple words like "adverse" and "atypical" mean.

Sure, but being "atypical" suggests it was noteworthy enough for VADA to report it. One need not take an absolute position between it being (1) nothing or (2) evidence of PED use.

What one should do - in my opinion - is put aside one's allegiances and demand better governance of the sport so we don't have to rely on a self-interested businessman like Eddie Hearn to report this stuff.

Or join the "everyone's at it" brigade, turn a blind eye to it, and support Conor Benn, presumably.

[IronDanHamza]

First paragraph: I don't know, I was more thinking out loud. But how many 39 year old boxers do they test to compare to?

Hearn is always talking smug and irritating. He comes off EXTRA smug and irritating though because he's the only promoter out there who actively ignores multiple failed drug testings and tries to get his suspended fighters fights in different jurisdictions.

But the fact that it was worded "Atypical Finding" instead of "adverse effects" or "failed drug test" (Like with Benn, Whyte, Baumgartner, Chavez Jr for example) is what made me think that. Plus, VADA immediately came out and cleared it anyways.


EDIT - I see this just got posted, and basically says what I said

Nothing you've said here changes the fact that what you implied in your post was incorrect.

You're acting as if it's not su****ious, when it is.

[_Rexy_]

Sure, but being "atypical" suggests it was noteworthy enough for VADA to report it. One need not take an absolute position between it being (1) nothing or (2) evidence of PED use.

What one should do - in my opinion - is put aside one's allegiances and demand better governance of the sport so we don't have to rely on a self-interested businessman like Eddie Hearn to report this stuff.

Or join the "everyone's at it" brigade, turn a blind eye to it, and support Conor Benn, presumably.

Is Eddie the one who reported it? Because that smells like VADA let the camps know “there’s an atypical finding, nothing to worry about.” And Eddie went and made it a headline. Because I’ve never seen “atypical finding” even reported before.

extra ironic after they had the secret hearing with Dbol Dillian.

[dan-b]

A lot of us on here have fought in the ring, taken PED's etc. So maybe you shouldn't chit on someone who may know what they're talking about just because they have a ring girl avatar.

There are certainly many broscientists around, I wouldn't go to them for medical advice personally.

I accept speaking to his simpy avatar was below the belt but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he just lifted those numbers from somewhere else and is now presuming to know what they mean. He doesn't even know what VADA's "typical" result measurement is. I suspect he just dislikes Hearn and likes Beterbiev and that's largely informing his position.

[IronDanHamza]

I’m reading through the story now. He hasn’t actually broken any rules…

Should probably do that before making statements of people being a cheat, that you've now changed to a question

He can't be a cheater to you anyway, can he?

He doesn't have the physique of a bodybuilder.

[Smash]

this is just a typical response to an atypical finding

[Mammoth]

A nothingburger