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  • #11
    Call me crazy but I am gonna go with a draw here. The rematch, someone will make adjustments correctly and win by a split decision.

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    • #12
      If fury will maul Usyk, then Dubois should stay far away from Fury.

      Usyk UD fight 1
      Usyk UD fight 2 (if it happens)

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      • #13
        Originally posted by joe strong View Post
        Larry Merchant used to always say “A good big man will always beat a good little man” i was convinced that would be the case when Fury & Usyk met for the undisputed title. After that October embarrassment I’m not so sure anymore. Is Fury checked out? Does he even have the motivation for one last great performance? He has gone silent so I assume he is working hard in camp but is that desire really still there? He can look the part physically but is he mentally still up for the challenge? He’s been sleeping on silk sheets for a long time… I just hope we get a great fight & it’s so good there is a demand for a rematch…
        Usyk can’t do any of the things that Ngannou did to give Tyson Fury problems. He simply isn’t that big and strong.

        I agree with Don Charles, I don’t think this will even be a hard fight for Fury.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

          Usyk can’t do any of the things that Ngannou did to give Tyson Fury problems. He simply isn’t that big and strong.

          I agree with Don Charles, I don’t think this will even be a hard fight for Fury.
          He's big enough to get Fury's attention when he hits him and to do some damage, even if it might have to be attritional. Given the deterioration we've seen in Fury's skills the last few fights, he is not going to have a problem hitting Fury.

          Which is not to say Fury's size won't be an issue for Usyk -- it will and is something Usyk will struggle with. But I do not think it is insurmountable. Usyk is significantly smaller than Fury, but at 6'3" and 221lbs, he is an OK size for a HW. I think Usyk can win (I fall short of saying he *will* win, but he can). He is chronologically older, but physically younger than Fury. He is more disciplined, fitter, faster. Both have great chins, great engines; both can box extremely well. I think Usyk is mentally sounder and has a slight edge in technique.

          Right now, I slightly favour Usyk. I think the comments here from Del Boy's trainer are reasonably well balanced though.

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          • #15
            More than one way to deal with Fury. People make a big deal about him being able to be the bigger guy, but if Usyk's been training with Papachenko, that could backfire big time. Watch some of Loma's work in the clinch... They practice wrestling "swimming" to gain tactical advantage. If the bigger guy tries to drop weight on them and rest, they'll drop their weight and switch step out. Then the other guy has to catch his own weight when he was expecting to rest, or land on his face, potentially while getting lit up by a hook. Or they'll hang on the arms during an underhook clinch to tire out the biceps. They'll jerk straight out against an overhook clinch, which brings the elbows into the body reflexively and opens the chin for a shot over the top. Head positioning against the chin to use that weight against the bigger guy, etc.

            All Fury does is d**** himself on the other guy to tire them out. Against Ngannou, who knows how to wrestle, that didn't work. Usyk should also know how to leverage an opponent's clinch against them. Fury is going to have a longer night than people think if he can't land and knock Usyk down.

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            • #16
              What Dubois trainer can’t figure out is that Fury ain’t mauling nobody with his lazy ass just looking for Saudi blood $$$. Usyk will move, jab, and hit Fury with punches and get out like a 3 alarm fire. Someone tell this trainer that’s why they have a 2 fight deal dummy.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                Usyk can’t do any of the things that Ngannou did to give Tyson Fury problems. He simply isn’t that big and strong.

                I agree with Don Charles, I don’t think this will even be a hard fight for Fury.
                I don't think Usyk is going to let Fury take rest breaks and lean all his weight on him. Francis dominated the clinch and Fury was sucking wind. Usyk will keep moving and is good at avoiding the clinch.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                  I don't think Usyk is going to let Fury take rest breaks and lean all his weight on him. Francis dominated the clinch and Fury was sucking wind. Usyk will keep moving and is good at avoiding the clinch.
                  There are things that Usyk can do to try to beat Fury. But none of them are the things that Ngannou had success with.

                  That’s all I’m saying.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    There are things that Usyk can do to try to beat Fury. But none of them are the things that Ngannou had success with.

                    That’s all I’m saying.
                    Well yeah, we agree then my bad.

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