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  • #31
    Originally posted by pollywog View Post

    ...surely that means A-Side Joshy would have even less of a problem with Zhang.

    No, wait AJ hasnt survived the biggest puncher in boxing history.

    As you were...
    aj could never survive wilder and his devastating 28 percent ko ratio against top 10 ranked fighters. i guess joyce is a bigger puncher than wilder since he ko'd parker? wow these guys are getting so powerful nowadays or maybe wilder was just a fraud...hmmm whats more probable? you fell for the hype. as you were...back to claiming wilder and ortiz were great while eveyone else who beat them ******


    Last edited by daggum; 01-04-2024, 09:13 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by daggum View Post

      aj could never survive wilder and his devastating 28 percent ko ratio against top 10 ranked fighters
      Starching AJ would have put it up to at least 32%.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by pollywog View Post

        Starching AJ would have put it up to at least 32%.
        not good at math either...but expected for someone who thinks wilder was legit. as you were...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by daggum View Post

          not good at math either...but expected for someone who thinks wilder was legit. as you were...
          36 %...do we have any takers at 36 ?

          Who gives a fück ? A-side Joshy never fought Wilder. Never unified for undisputed and lost twice to a cruiserweight.

          Exactly how legit is that ?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pollywog View Post

            36 %...do we have any takers at 36 ?

            Who gives a fück ? A-side Joshy never fought Wilder. Never unified for undisputed and lost twice to a cruiserweight.

            Exactly how legit is that ?
            closer...i will give you half credit for grading your own paper. wilder turned down 100 million dollars to fight lesser ranked fighters for less money. 100 percent his fault. he wanted that easy path and got exposed. now we all know he was just hype since he has no resume. usyk would easily beat wilder so not sure thats really a diss. ruiz would beat wilder and wilder just ducked ruiz(only offered him 30 when he was legally entitled to 40 under wbcs terms then wilder walked away from purse bid) joshua losing doesnt make wilder better. thats where you go off the rails. joshua is still a good fighter with or without wilder. wilder was never all that good and his resume shows that. wilders "greatness" was based on the threat and hype of doing big things...things he never did.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by daggum View Post

              closer...i will give you half credit for grading your own paper. wilder turned down 100 million dollars to fight lesser ranked fighters for less money. 100 percent his fault. he wanted that easy path and got exposed. now we all know he was just hype since he has no resume. usyk would easily beat wilder so not sure thats really a diss. ruiz would beat wilder and wilder just ducked ruiz(only offered him 30 when he was legally entitled to 40 under wbcs terms then wilder walked away from purse bid) joshua losing doesnt make wilder better. thats where you go off the rails. joshua is still a good fighter with or without wilder. wilder was never all that good and his resume shows that. wilders "greatness" was based on the threat and hype of doing big things...things he never did.
              Once again Professor, i doubt anyone gives a fück who was offered what amount anymore than percentages of k.o rates. Only that AJ and Wilder didnt unify because BLAH BLAH BLAH...

              No one knows whether Ruiz or Usyk would have beat Prime Wilder. We can speculate and make up cool stories but that's all they are.

              Joshua is a good fighter definitely. Not a great fighter because he never dared to be in taking on all comers and was exposed twice against Usyk.

              A-side Joshy will never be mentioned in the same breath of greatness as the winner of Fury/Usyk. He'll never be the greatest of his generation or era.

              He'll go down as a good fighter who was full if self doubt, fragile and insecure. Wilder will go down as the most fearsome puncher of his era and inspire arguments for years.



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              • #37
                Originally posted by pollywog View Post

                Once again Professor, i doubt anyone gives a fück who was offered what amount anymore than percentages of k.o rates. Only that AJ and Wilder didnt unify because BLAH BLAH BLAH...

                No one knows whether Ruiz or Usyk would have beat Prime Wilder. We can speculate and make up cool stories but that's all they are.

                Joshua is a good fighter definitely. Not a great fighter because he never dared to be in taking on all comers and was exposed twice against Usyk.

                A-side Joshy will never be mentioned in the same breath of greatness as the winner of Fury/Usyk. He'll never be the greatest of his generation or era.

                He'll go down as a good fighter who was full if self doubt, fragile and insecure. Wilder will go down as the most fearsome puncher of his era and inspire arguments for years.


                yeah the blah blah part is the important part...wilder ducking. you keep bringing up them not fighting as if its joshuas fault. its not. you keep bringing up them not fighting as a huge blight on joshuas record, its not. it would have been a solid win but hes beaten much better fighters than wilder during his career. i agree with you he wont be a great fighter, hes just pretty good. wilder wasnt even on that level though. guys like usyk and ruiz already have much better resumes than wilder, we dont need to see them fight, we need to see wilder prove himself and he hasnt.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post

                  yeah the blah blah part is the important part...wilder ducking. you keep bringing up them not fighting as if its joshuas fault. its not. you keep bringing up them not fighting as a huge blight on joshuas record, its not. it would have been a solid win but hes beaten much better fighters than wilder during his career. i agree with you he wont be a great fighter, hes just pretty good. wilder wasnt even on that level though. guys like usyk and ruiz already have much better resumes than wilder, we dont need to see them fight, we need to see wilder prove himself and he hasnt.
                  Its not entirely AJ's fault. Wilder is as much to blame but people don't care why, it really isnt important. People only care that it didn't happen when it could and should have.

                  Having Wilder on his resumé would have been more than a solid win, it would have meant undisputed, unified and undefeated Heavyweight Champion of the World, at the time.

                  Not being that is a blight on Joshua's record because he coulda, shoulda, woulda but didn't. Same for Wilder.

                  Wilder is done. AJ still thinks he's the money man that everyone wants to cash in on so can still make with the A-side diva demands.

                  The Sauds are saying yeah, nah. Take a ticket, stand in line, don't call us, we'll call you while Hearn is having to walk back all the bluster and wind his neck in.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    Joseph Parker’s weakness is lack of punching power. Point blank the man he can’t hit. That’s what caused him all of his losses to both AJ, Whyte, Joe Joyce and almost Deontay Wilder. Wilder weighed only 200 lbs for that fight and yet he still couldn’t put him away. Now what imagine what a 300 lbs man does to with punching power, active and could hit??
                    Except Wilder didn't even come remotely close to winning that fight , and Wilder was 213 lbs...closer to 220 lbs. than 200 lbs.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pollywog View Post

                      Its not entirely AJ's fault. Wilder is as much to blame but people don't care why, it really isnt important. People only care that it didn't happen when it could and should have.

                      Having Wilder on his resumé would have been more than a solid win, it would have meant undisputed, unified and undefeated Heavyweight Champion of the World, at the time.

                      Not being that is a blight on Joshua's record because he coulda, shoulda, woulda but didn't. Same for Wilder.

                      Wilder is done. AJ still thinks he's the money man that everyone wants to cash in on so can still make with the A-side diva demands.

                      The Sauds are saying yeah, nah. Take a ticket, stand in line, don't call us, we'll call you while Hearn is having to walk back all the bluster and wind his neck in.
                      wilder is more to blame as he turned down a historic offer and why wouldnt people care about the reason a fight didnt happen? in the moment people thought wilder/joshua was some kind of super fight but it really wasnt. in the future people arent going to have any emotional attachment to wilder, they will probably look at his record and say hmmm this guy didnt do much. oh well

                      all that doesnt mean much. its the quality that matters and if joshua beat wilder and wilder faded away into obscurity like hes doing now...he still doesnt have much of a resume to fall back on so it wouldnt be a great win. its like floyd beating baldomir or something. ok you became unified champ but you beat baldomir. not great.
                      Last edited by daggum; 01-05-2024, 12:10 AM.

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