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  • #71
    Originally posted by messi807 View Post

    The part where you disingenuously group Arabs with "whites" when you know full well no one considers them white, when most of your ILK cry on it's about Europeans in particular.

    …disingenuously lol. DNA, my friend. I guess I’ll just call myself a penguin..

    Not my fault you don’t like facts.
    You know you're being disingenuous, i'll call you monkey then shall I since we share most of our DNA with them....

    Also the other disingenuous part about you is your persistent picking and choosing of the argument that fits your narrative.

    Or whatever you conveniently like to reply to, you completely ignored the valid part above and below to mention the less meaningful and less poignant "ARABZ ARE WHYTE"

    Also I'd argue Arabs and their slavery is much further reaching consequences as it's still occuring and unlike your exaggerated version of ruining the continent or having any effects on their culture, language and families you propose whiteys have had.

    Arabs actually did ruin the continent, culture, language and families by making the men Eunuchs and literally ending the bloodline, there is no real mixed population in the Arab world because of that unlike in the west pretty much disproving your "theory" about whitey.​

    Also like I said previously whitey wasn't in the interior of Africa to slave until the invention and mass production of Quinine, which didn't come until the END of slavery and essentially brought about colonisation.

    So that means as I pointed out before it was Africans ruining the continent, culture, language, families for weaker African tribes and selling to the Portuguese initially just like the Vikings did, Genghis Khan did, Attila the Hun, The Romans etc etc across multiple countries and continents.

    And lastly Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Japan, Germany, China and The Dutch attempted and some succeeded for a time to do across multiple continents.

    It's the way of the world of unfortunately as I said previously.
    Last edited by Boro; 02-04-2024, 05:47 AM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Boro View Post

      You know you're being disingenuous, i'll call you monkey then shall I since we share most of our DNA with them....

      Also the other disingenuous part about you is your persistent picking and choosing of the argument that fits your narrative.

      Or whatever you conveniently like to reply to, you completely ignored the valid part above and below to mention the less meaningful and less poignant "ARABZ ARE WHYTE"

      Also I'd argue Arabs and their slavery is much further reaching consequences as it's still occuring and unlike your exaggerated version of ruining the continent or having any effects on their culture, language and families you propose whiteys have had.

      Arabs actually did ruin the continent, culture, language and families by making the men Eunuchs and literally ending the bloodline, there is no real mixed population in the Arab world because of that unlike in the west pretty much disproving your "theory" about whitey.​

      Also like I said previously whitey wasn't in the interior of Africa to slave until the invention and mass production of Quinine, which didn't come until the END of slavery and essentially brought about colonisation.

      So that means as I pointed out before it was Africans ruining the continent, culture, language, families for weaker African tribes and selling to the Portuguese initially just like the Vikings did, Genghis Khan did, Attila the Hun, The Romans etc etc across multiple countries and continents.

      And lastly Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Japan, Germany, China and The Dutch attempted and some succeeded for a time to do across multiple continents.

      It's the way of the world of unfortunately as I said previously.
      “So that means as I pointed out before it was Africans ruining the continent, culture, language, families for weaker African tribes​“

      Yeah, zero evidence for that extremely bold claim I’ve never heard from a single soul before. Even so, if that was the case it was done on an extremely minimal level and barely affected the continent which was still intact. Name the tribes in each African country that ruined the continent? I can name the European countries that destroyed Africa without any problems. Let’s see if you have a source for your claims.. hmm.

      Arab colonisation didn’t have half the detrimental effect it had on Africa, which is why 60% of Africa is Christian and only half (30%) is ****** - numbers speak for itself.

      Oh yeah - Portuguese, French & English (European languages) are the most spoken non-native amongst African countries on a country by country basis. Took their native languages and replaced them.

      Arab slavery was definitely bad, no excusing. But Africans had some great ****** empires. Christianity? None, it thoroughly destroyed the continent. Not to mention Arabs used to do the same in Europe with European ******.

      The European slave trade was much more barbaric and they used ‘race’ as a basis.

      King Leopol in Congo alone k*lled over 10 million Africans within 50 years of his reign, brutal. Never heard anything like that from Arab.

      Heck, Africans have lived amongst each other for over 100,000 years. There’s never been a time in history that amount of people have di*ed in a short-span and a native been responsible. Truly evil.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by messi807 View Post

        “So that means as I pointed out before it was Africans ruining the continent, culture, language, families for weaker African tribes​“

        Yeah, zero evidence for that extremely bold claim I’ve never heard from a single soul before. Even so, if that was the case it was done on an extremely minimal level and barely affected the continent which was still intact. Name the tribes in each African country that ruined the continent? I can name the European countries that destroyed Africa without any problems. Let’s see if you have a source for your claims.. hmm.

        Arab colonisation didn’t have half the detrimental effect it had on Africa, which is why 60% of Africa is Christian and only half (30%) is ****** - numbers speak for itself.

        Oh yeah - Portuguese, French & English (European languages) are the most spoken non-native amongst African countries on a country by country basis. Took their native languages and replaced them.

        Arab slavery was definitely bad, no excusing. But Africans had some great ****** empires. Christianity? None, it thoroughly destroyed the continent. Not to mention Arabs used to do the same in Europe with European ******.

        The European slave trade was much more barbaric and they used ‘race’ as a basis.

        King Leopol in Congo alone k*lled over 10 million Africans within 50 years of his reign, brutal. Never heard anything like that from Arab.

        Heck, Africans have lived amongst each other for over 100,000 years. There’s never been a time in history that amount of people have di*ed in a short-span and a native been responsible. Truly evil.
        There is nothing bold about that claim, it's exactly like Europeans who fought slaved and destroyed other nations, bloodlines and cultures within Europe it's not a difficult concept to comprehend son...

        Africa isn't even majority christian so don't know why you even made that claim but pretty redundant to make a factually incorrect statement.

        Also Christianity had been rising since the 1950s all the way through till 2000 that's a consequence of choice not colonisation as you claim and it's not a statistically insignificant increase either...

        Also love how you neglected to mention Arabic is the second most spoken language in Africa period after Swahili despite it being a "non-native" language again proving how disingenuous you continue to be throughout this conversation.

        Ohh so North Africa which is pretty much all Arabs another indication of their colonisation and lasting effects on Africa is now suddenly "African" enough once you can claim "great empires" due to ******s but when atrocities are afoot and slavery abound Arabs are whites how convenient...

        The European slave trade wasn't based on race until it was but initially it wasn't, again you're being completely disingenuous claiming it was based on race from the onset...

        Obviously they weren't as effective at killing each other, Africa has always been technologically behind, it's true now and it was true then.
        Last edited by Boro; 02-04-2024, 01:36 PM.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Boro View Post

          There is nothing bold about that claim, it's exactly like Europeans who fought slaved and destroyed other nations, bloodlines and cultures within Europe it's not a difficult concept to comprehend son...

          Africa isn't even majority christian so don't know why you even made that claim but pretty redundant to make a factually incorrect statement.

          Also Christianity had been rising since the 1950s all the way through till 2000 that's a consequence of choice not colonisation as you claim and it's not a statistically insignificant increase either...

          Also love how you neglected to mention Arabic is the second most spoken language in Africa period after Swahili despite it being a "non-native" language again proving how disingenuous you continue to be throughout this conversation.

          Ohh so North Africa which is pretty much all Arabs another indication of their colonisation and lasting effects on Africa is now suddenly "African" enough once you can claim "great empires" due to ******s but when atrocities are afoot and slavery abound Arabs are whites how convenient...

          The European slave trade wasn't based on race until it was but initially it wasn't, again you're being completely disingenuous claiming it was based on race from the onset...

          Obviously they weren't as effective at killing each other, Africa has always been technologically behind, it's true now and it was true then.
          “Also Christianity had been rising since the 1950s all the way through till 2000 that's a consequence of choice not colonisation as you claim and it's not a statistically insignificant increase either...”




          Christianity (European) religion have destroyed an uncountable amount of cultures and people around the world. Specifically in Africa & South America. Huh? A consequence of choice?? LOL the Bible was forced upon ****** and the only book they were allowed to read. slave-masters described slavery as being against God's intention and resulting from sin & used certain verses in the Bible to cement this. - I’m gathering you don’t actually know history. Consequence of choice.. dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Pick up a book.




          “Also love how you neglected to mention Arabic is the second most spoken language in Africa period after Swahili despite it being a "non-native" language again proving how disingenuous you continue to be throughout this conversation.”




          Didn’t neglect anything, Arabs have played their part too - just not as much as Europeans. In the first millennium BC, Southern Arabians gained control of the Red Sea trade-routes and established in around 800 BC. As a result Eritrea, Sudan and the north of Ethiopia were incorporated into an areas of Arabian influence. Arabs have had relationships in Africa longer than Europeans have been breathing air. But as soon as Europeans got to Africa in mass numbers they started to destroy the entire continent, crazy.




          “Ohh so North Africa which is pretty much all Arabs another indication of their colonisation and lasting effects on Africa is now suddenly "African" enough once you can claim "great empires" due to ******s but when atrocities are afoot and slavery abound Arabs are whites how convenient...”




          When discussing a topic, I discuss everything not just the points that suit you. I’ve said twice Arabs have ‘hurt’ Africa, just nowhere near the amount of Europeans. You say otherwise, because of ego.. I’m still waiting for you to explain how they’ve destroyed Africa more than Europeans. You’re the one that was trying to compare LOL, so I laughed and asked you why. They’re both white. Very different people and culture.. but they share the same DNA. Which is my point.




          “Obviously they weren't as effective at killing each other, Africa has always been technologically behind, it's true now and it was true then.”




          Agriculture, Medicine, Science, Maths didn’t originate from Europe. hate to break it to you, barely anything does lol.




          Ancient Africans, Indians, Native Americans rarely stepped out their continent to go and visit Europe. But all the European philosophers & Emperors consistently went to every continent to go and study ancient cultures, steal their monuments, land, BOOKS and resources. The amount Greek ‘historians’ that went to study and learn from Ancient African scholars, insane.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by messi807 View Post


            Christianity (European) religion have destroyed an uncountable amount of cultures and people around the world. Specifically in Africa & South America. Huh? A consequence of choice?? LOL the Bible was forced upon ****** and the only book they were allowed to read. slave-masters described slavery as being against God's intention and resulting from sin & used certain verses in the Bible to cement this. - I’m gathering you don’t actually know history. Consequence of choice.. dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Pick up a book.




            “Also love how you neglected to mention Arabic is the second most spoken language in Africa period after Swahili despite it being a "non-native" language again proving how disingenuous you continue to be throughout this conversation.”




            Didn’t neglect anything, Arabs have played their part too - just not as much as Europeans. In the first millennium BC, Southern Arabians gained control of the Red Sea trade-routes and established in around 800 BC. As a result Eritrea, Sudan and the north of Ethiopia were incorporated into an areas of Arabian influence. Arabs have had relationships in Africa longer than Europeans have been breathing air. But as soon as Europeans got to Africa in mass numbers they started to destroy the entire continent, crazy.




            “Ohh so North Africa which is pretty much all Arabs another indication of their colonisation and lasting effects on Africa is now suddenly "African" enough once you can claim "great empires" due to ******s but when atrocities are afoot and slavery abound Arabs are whites how convenient...”




            When discussing a topic, I discuss everything not just the points that suit you. I’ve said twice Arabs have ‘hurt’ Africa, just nowhere near the amount of Europeans. You say otherwise, because of ego.. I’m still waiting for you to explain how they’ve destroyed Africa more than Europeans. You’re the one that was trying to compare LOL, so I laughed and asked you why. They’re both white. Very different people and culture.. but they share the same DNA. Which is my point.




            “Obviously they weren't as effective at killing each other, Africa has always been technologically behind, it's true now and it was true then.”




            Agriculture, Medicine, Science, Maths didn’t originate from Europe. hate to break it to you, barely anything does lol.




            Ancient Africans, Indians, Native Americans rarely stepped out their continent to go and visit Europe. But all the European philosophers & Emperors consistently went to every continent to go and study ancient cultures, steal their monuments, land, BOOKS and resources. The amount Greek ‘historians’ that went to study and learn from Ancient African scholars, insane.
            Christianity was started by a *** and spread by the followers of said *** like come on you're completely disingenuous again like fúck me denying Jesus (yeshua) was a *** is ******ity...

            I know more about history and stats then you apparently son every single thing you've thing you mentioned is demonstrable false like "whites" are more likely rápist yet blacks represent 2x their demographic as compared to whites who represent 10% more than their demographic.

            You pretty much denied the fact that Europeans had nothing to do with capturing and slaving Africans in Africa when Europeans couldn't even enter the interior of Africa until Quinine was mass produced after slavery was long abolished at least in the western world?

            800 B.C. and you think that's pre existing Europeans lmao and you really have the audacity to mention knowing history LMAO...

            Your inability to grasp how Arabs have had an profound and long lasting effect on Africans by literally ending bloodlines via making millions of mens Eunuchs is beyond comprehension quite frankly.

            It's almost as incomprehensible as not understanding the effects of planned parenthood had/continues to have on the black community but clearly you lack critical thinking and are unable to engage on a deeper level.

            Not even going to engage with your dumb "WE WUZ KANGZ, EU NEVA MADZ ENYTHANGZ" argument.
            Last edited by Boro; 02-04-2024, 04:23 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by richardt View Post
              They are going to milk Berlanga and Mungia forever.
              These two should fighting each other , fight makes sense for both .........

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Boro View Post

                Christianity was started by a *** and spread by the followers of said *** like come on you're completely disingenuous again like fúck me denying Jesus (yeshua) was a *** is ******ity...

                I know more about history and stats then you apparently son every single thing you've thing you mentioned is demonstrable false like "whites" are more likely rápist yet blacks represent 2x their demographic as compared to whites who represent 10% more than their demographic.

                You pretty much denied the fact that Europeans had nothing to do with capturing and slaving Africans in Africa when Europeans couldn't even enter the interior of Africa until Quinine was mass produced after slavery was long abolished at least in the western world?

                800 B.C. and you think that's pre existing Europeans lmao and you really have the audacity to mention knowing history LMAO...

                Your inability to grasp how Arabs have had an profound and long lasting effect on Africans by literally ending bloodlines via making millions of mens Eunuchs is beyond comprehension quite frankly.

                It's almost as incomprehensible as not understanding the effects of planned parenthood had/continues to have on the black community but clearly you lack critical thinking and are unable to engage on a deeper level.

                Not even going to engage with your dumb "WE WUZ KANGZ, EU NEVA MADZ ENYTHANGZ" argument.
                “Christianity was started by a *** and spread by the followers of said *** like come on you're completely disingenuous again like fúck me denying Jesus (yeshua) was a *** is ******ity...”




                I don’t believe in any of that stuff, so yeah. The first christian emperor was a roman. The first church was reportedly catholic. New Testament was written in Greek. Europeans have controlled the religion for a very long time.




                “You pretty much denied the fact that Europeans had nothing to do with capturing and slaving Africans in Africa when Europeans couldn't even enter the interior of Africa until Quinine was mass produced after slavery was long abolished at least in the western world?”




                It’s you that doesn’t know history. You believe Greeks weren’t in Africa studying ancient cultures?




                “800 B.C. and you think that's pre existing Europeans lmao and you really have the audacity to mention knowing history LMAO”




                Europeans had zero trading relationships with Africans. Arabians did.




                “Your inability to grasp how Arabs have had a profound and long lasting effect on Africans by literally ending bloodlines via making millions of mens Eunuchs is beyond comprehension quite frankly.”




                Reading comprehension is key. All I said was it wasn’t as worse as the African slave trade by Europeans.




                “It's almost as incomprehensible as not understanding the effects of planned parenthood had/continues to have on the black community but clearly you lack critical thinking and are unable to engage on a deeper level.”




                Planned Parenthood puts most of its clinics in black neighborhoods to "control the population" and its founder, Margaret Sanger has a history with racism as does her family, go and look what **** Germany thinks of her. She believed in eugenics.




                “Not even going to engage with your dumb "WE WUZ KANGZ, EU NEVA MADZ ENYTHANGZ" argument.”




                Doesn’t bother me. Just go and ask Diodurus Sicilus, Anaxgoras, Herodotus, Democritus, Thales, Aristotle, Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Hippocrates and much much more - who all studied for decades at African temples and universities. All verified, sadly your white supremacist usual ‘whitewash/steal’ history coincidentally never speaks upon this, hmm. Some even studied for over 40 years at these places and still none ever (Europeans) graduated, pretty much how advanced things were, they lacked the knowledge.




                Greek scholar, St Clement of Alexandria once said if one were to list the names of all the Greeks who studied under kemetian tutors, a 1000 page book wouldn’t be enough. Insane.




                Greeks are known as ‘The Cradle Of Europe’ and they got the majority of their knowledge from Africans. Nothing more needs to be said lol.




                Europeans never developed much without outside support, knowledge or education. you guys didn’t even know how to bathe until the moors taught you lol. Only great things you brought was war, hell, destruction and mass massacre to the planet.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by messi807 View Post




                  I don’t believe in any of that stuff, so yeah. The first christian emperor was a roman. The first church was reportedly catholic. New Testament was written in Greek. Europeans have controlled the religion for a very long time.


                  It’s you that doesn’t know history. You believe Greeks weren’t in Africa studying ancient cultures?




                  Europeans had zero trading relationships with Africans. Arabians did.




                  “Your inability to grasp how Arabs have had a profound and long lasting effect on Africans by literally ending bloodlines via making millions of mens Eunuchs is beyond comprehension quite frankly.”




                  Reading comprehension is key. All I said was it wasn’t as worse as the African slave trade by Europeans.

                  Planned Parenthood puts most of its clinics in black neighborhoods to "control the population" and its founder, Margaret Sanger has a history with racism as does her family, go and look what **** Germany thinks of her. She believed in eugenics.


                  No one said you have to believe in fairy tales to accept the truth of the beginning of the religion...

                  As for the new testament being written in Greek who cares?

                  Of course the main adopters of a religion are going to be the ones who primarily try to "spread the word"...

                  And where did I deny Europeans studying anywhere, unlike you i'm not under the impression anyone or any singular group created or is solely responsible for everything.

                  I understand that humans often travel, conquer and cross-pollinate ideas and often will steal ideas and improve them ad infinitum?

                  Like I said reading comprehension is the issue for you here, Arabs making millions of men Eunuchs has potentially took 10s of millions if not 100s of millions of people out of the world same with planned parenthood, hence why I said you have to think about it on a deeper level...

                  40% of ********s in America are by "black" women, so roughly 270,000 a year of them.

                  About 51-52% will be born a woman and of them women 80% of them will reproduce.

                  And if we go based on current stats they'll have 1.6 kids, so roughly 115k kids.

                  And men roughly reproduce 40% of the time, so they'll have about 52k kids, so in one year at current birth rates planned parenthood has effectively took out 437k when only accounting for one generation...

                  And the numbers with Eunuchs is even more staggering as birth rates were much higher then they are currently.

                  Europeans just moved them across the world and separated them a good few died and plenty lived and established lives in their new "home" hence why there is 10's of millions of them now in America, Brazil, Haiti and so on and so forth...

                  Of course Hitler took most of his diabolical ideas from America, this is a well known fact but somehow it's all "Europeans" just because you're white doesn't make you "European", Europeans are very different to Americans always has been, always will be...

                  America has always had an extremely fúcked up relationship with race because every single one of you are pointing the finger at each other and playing the oppression Olympics instead of looking in the mirror...
                  Last edited by Boro; 02-05-2024, 12:07 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Boro View Post

                    No one said you have to believe in fairy tales to accept the truth of the beginning of the religion...

                    As for the new testament being written in Greek who cares?

                    Of course the main adopters of a religion are going to be the ones who primarily try to "spread the word"...

                    And where did I deny Europeans studying anywhere, unlike you i'm not under the impression anyone or any singular group created or is solely responsible for everything.

                    I understand that humans often travel, conquer and cross-pollinate ideas and often will steal ideas and improve them ad infinitum?

                    Like I said reading comprehension is the issue for you here, Arabs making millions of men Eunuchs has potentially took 10s of millions if not 100s of millions of people out of the world same with planned parenthood, hence why I said you have to think about it on a deeper level...

                    40% of ********s in America are by "black" women, so roughly 270,000 a year of them.

                    About 51-52% will be born a woman and of them women 80% of them will reproduce.

                    And if we go based on current stats they'll have 1.6 kids, so roughly 115k kids.

                    And men roughly reproduce 40% of the time, so they'll have about 52k kids, so in one year at current birth rates planned parenthood has effectively took out 437k when only accounting for one generation...

                    And the numbers with Eunuchs is even more staggering as birth rates were much higher then they are currently.

                    Europeans just moved them across the world and separated them a good few died and plenty lived and established lives in their new "home" hence why there is 10's of millions of them now in America, Brazil, Haiti and so on and so forth...

                    Of course Hitler took most of his diabolical ideas from America, this is a well known fact but somehow it's all "Europeans" just because you're white doesn't make you "European", Europeans are very different to Americans always has been, always will be...

                    America has always had an extremely fúcked up relationship with race because every single one of you are pointing the finger at each other and playing the oppression Olympics instead of looking in the mirror...
                    “hence why there is 10's of millions of them now in America, Brazil, Haiti and so on and so forth...”

                    And they all live in the most messed up poverty stricken environments due to the after effects of slavery and racism. The racism in Brazil is on a whole other level. But somehow you think ignoring the elephant in the room is playing oppression Olympics.

                    “And where did I deny Europeans studying anywhere, unlike you i'm not under the impression anyone or any singular group created or is solely responsible for everything.”

                    Amytime I hear “we wuz kangs remark” it’s usually from people that believe africans never brought anything/played a major part to civilisation.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by messi807 View Post

                      “hence why there is 10's of millions of them now in America, Brazil, Haiti and so on and so forth...”

                      And they all live in the most messed up poverty stricken environments due to the after effects of slavery and racism. The racism in Brazil is on a whole other level. But somehow you think ignoring the elephant in the room is playing oppression Olympics.

                      “And where did I deny Europeans studying anywhere, unlike you i'm not under the impression anyone or any singular group created or is solely responsible for everything.”

                      Amytime I hear “we wuz kangs remark” it’s usually from people that believe africans never brought anything/played a major part to civilisation.
                      Who cares if they live in poverty stricken places, they're better off in Brazil then most African countries based on GDP per capita alone, not accounting for rampant corruption in Africa.

                      And then you have the fact the west was modernized much faster than Africa, there is a multitude of reason why it was overall better then the Arabic slave trade/Eunuchs for all involved.

                      You could even go as far as to say making men "Eunuchs" could be seen as a veiled genocidal act...

                      But like I said you're being disingenuous completely ending bloodlines isn't bad compared to being able to continue life in a new country with more opportunities and in modernity now is it?!




                      "WE WUZ KANGZ, WE BEZ THE ORGINALZ, WE BEZ THE THIRST ***Z, WE TOGHT EVERYONEZ EVERYTHANGZ"

                      Is the exact same shít as Europeans who claimed they invented everything, it's as if you don't even realise you've effectively done what you've accused others of.

                      It's actually quite laughable that you're lacking this much self-awareness...

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