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  • #51
    Hearn can’t deliver the big fights, no idea why berlanga signed with him. Look at Andrade, Eddie couldn’t get him the big fight

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Boro View Post

      Men get longer sentences then women no one sheds tears for them.

      But if you're statistically more likely to be violent as is the case with men in general as compared to women then you should be more harshly sentenced just like "PoC".

      Yeah because Affirmative action​ isn't a thing right? aka positive discrimination in favour of **********.

      And the aforementioned is overcorrecting to the point of excluding "whites, men, straight" whatever the case may be.

      But like I said it's easy to counter shít but like most things people remain wilfully ignorant or intentionally so.

      I'm not American so why would I give a fúck about who's favoured or not, it's only because their BS is pervasive it's relevant...
      Affirmative action actually benefits white females the most, which is ironic. There’s statistics that back that up also. I think you need to do a bit more research before you even speak on ‘white privilege’ or systematic racism. Jane Elliot, white ex professor would be a good start.

      “But if you're statistically more likely to be violent as is the case with men in general as compared to women then you should be more harshly sentenced just like "PoC"”

      Man, I feel sorry for you. You think a person of colour that’s been convicted for the 1st time on a marijuana charge should get longer than a white person in the exact same scenario simply because of the colour of their skin? Makes zero sense. You really have no counter argument.. let’s be real.

      African Americans are arrested for violating marijuana possession laws at nearly four times the rates of whites, yet both ethnicities consume marijuana at approximately the same rates.


      Again, perfect example of white privilege. And marijuana definitely has zero to do with violence. So I would love to know your excuse for this?
      But again.. it definitely wouldn’t make sense.




      Last edited by messi807; 01-15-2024, 06:27 AM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by messi807 View Post

        Affirmative action actually benefits white females the most, which is ironic. There’s statistics that back that up also. I think you need to do a bit more research before you even speak on ‘white privilege’ or systematic racism. Jane Elliot, white ex professor would be a good start.

        “But if you're statistically more likely to be violent as is the case with men in general as compared to women then you should be more harshly sentenced just like "PoC"”

        Man, I feel sorry for you. You think a person of colour that’s been convicted for the 1st time on a marijuana charge should get longer than a white person in the exact same scenario simply because of the colour of their skin? Makes zero sense. You really have no counter argument.. let’s be real.

        African Americans are arrested for violating marijuana possession laws at nearly four times the rates of whites, yet both ethnicities consume marijuana at approximately the same rates.


        Again, perfect example of white privilege. And marijuana definitely has zero to do with violence. So I would love to know your excuse for this?
        But again.. it definitely wouldn’t make sense.



        Who cares if it benefits white females more than others, white females are the majority when it comes to "**********", engage your brain...

        Marijuana possession is a bit too vague to make the claim that they're being "arrested and charged" at different rates.

        Because as you know someone having a nick sack and a ounce or multiple or a few KG in the boot and have very different implications but of course you're being disingenuous as is most studies trying to prove this "claim"...

        I could make the "claim" though it's not claim, the fact white people get shot and killed by cops more than black people.

        Yet black people willingly shoot at cops at at 10x of any other race, are more likely to just be general violent altercations with said police, are weirdly over reported on so it gives a sense of already alleged issue more credence and somehow it's surprising to people they're shot by police.

        And they're also basically the only race that commits almost all crimes massively disproportionately regardless of where they live - France, UK, America, South America so on and so forth.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Boro View Post

          Who cares if it benefits white females more than others, white females are the majority when it comes to "**********", engage your brain...

          Marijuana possession is a bit too vague to make the claim that they're being "arrested and charged" at different rates.

          Because as you know someone having a nick sack and a ounce or multiple or a few KG in the boot and have very different implications but of course you're being disingenuous as is most studies trying to prove this "claim"...

          I could make the "claim" though it's not claim, the fact white people get shot and killed by cops more than black people.

          Yet black people willingly shoot at cops at at 10x of any other race, are more likely to just be general violent altercations with said police, are weirdly over reported on so it gives a sense of already alleged issue more credence and somehow it's surprising to people they're shot by police.

          And they're also basically the only race that commits almost all crimes massively disproportionately regardless of where they live - France, UK, America, South America so on and so forth.
          Not a bit too vague whatsoever, very simple to understand - For every example I give you, there’s millions more but I’m sure you’ll dispute every claim.. no problem with me, there’s millions of white people that are just like you.

          I see you didn’t address the point I pulled you up on about a newly convicted black criminal vs a white criminal that commits the same crime. + your very basic entry level of thinking that somehow this should equate to the black individual being sentenced for a longer period of time, simply because he has black skin.

          Not sure why you’ve swayed away and gone on to crime. Seems like you’re just mentioning things from your own perception. The news & media have different narratives to push so of course they’re over reported (police shootings) - But, LOL I want you to read back what you’re saying and ask yourself how does any of this disprove systematic racism which has existed for decades?

          The only race that disproportionately commits all crimes?

          Interesting

          Se* Trafficking
          *****phili*
          G****
          Mass Shooti**
          Terrorism
          Kidnap
          Serial Kil*rs

          Do me a favour and look up the countries with the highest rates of all of these crimes.

          Like I said, maybe it’s time to do your own research instead of making thing’s up in your head.

          Even terrorism, the U.S murde*ed over 400,000 innocent people in both Iraq & Afghanistan. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I’ve never seen a majority Black Country every do that in the history of the planet. That evil can’t be taught.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by messi807 View Post

            Not a bit too vague whatsoever, very simple to understand - For every example I give you, there’s millions more but I’m sure you’ll dispute every claim.. no problem with me, there’s millions of white people that are just like you.

            I see you didn’t address the point I pulled you up on about a newly convicted black criminal vs a white criminal that commits the same crime. + your very basic entry level of thinking that somehow this should equate to the black individual being sentenced for a longer period of time, simply because he has black skin.

            Not sure why you’ve swayed away and gone on to crime. Seems like you’re just mentioning things from your own perception. The news & media have different narratives to push so of course they’re over reported (police shootings) - But, LOL I want you to read back what you’re saying and ask yourself how does any of this disprove systematic racism which has existed for decades?

            The only race that disproportionately commits all crimes?

            Interesting

            Se* Trafficking
            *****phili*
            G****
            Mass Shooti**
            Terrorism
            Kidnap
            Serial Kil*rs

            Do me a favour and look up the countries with the highest rates of all of these crimes.

            Like I said, maybe it’s time to do your own research instead of making thing’s up in your head.

            Even terrorism, the U.S murde*ed over 400,000 innocent people in both Iraq & Afghanistan. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I’ve never seen a majority Black Country every do that in the history of the planet. That evil can’t be taught.
            You've intentionally ignored the part about me mentioning the amount of drugs they like it's irrelevant, my old neighbour got arrested for the first time in his life and got sentenced to 25 years for ******* because he had millions worth of the stuff.

            Like I said I said it's disingenuous of you and the fact you're boiling it down to skin colour instead of accounting for other very important variables is kinda weird.

            Do me a favour and look up how close them crimes are committed to in relation to their population in America.

            And I think you'll find they're almost identical to their population if not almost exactly representative unsurprisingly, in fact most crimes in America are proportional to their race.

            Apart from that is at least according to FBI stats DUI is the only crime that's even close to being as disproportionally high as the black communities violent acts.

            and it's disingenuous to mention mass shootings because you know as well as I do if they counted gang shooting as mass shootings as they should it would tell a whole different story now wouldn't it? but then America would be reporting on mass shootings every other day/week...

            And FYI based on the FBI stats blacks are still more likely to commit ****, Sex offences excluding rápe and prostitution etc etc

            Rápe - Whites 69.4% (11.9% more), Blacks 26.7% (105%)

            SO - Whites 74.6% (20.3%), Black 20.6% (58.5%).

            Whites representing 69% (11% more than they rep) of all data whilst being what 62%? blacks being 13% of the population and representing 26% (100% more) of the data indicates the opposite is true...

            There is literally no crimes they commit BELOW their representation in the populace the same can not be said of any other ethnicity.
            black commit a minimum of 8.5-405.4% more than their racial group represents as a demographic and then cry "systemic racism", it's quite frankly just crying for the sake of it.

            If you were treat fairly as you want to be more of you would be murdered by cops a year for the sake fairness given the fact you're 2.6x more likely to engage with police at a minimum based on arrests alone but less than half as likely to die to police, though I obviously don't agree with that...

            Whites commit crimes at -28% - 23.5% less/more than their demographic represents.
            Asians don't commit any crimes more than they represent as a group.
            Hispanics commit crimes at -47.4%-46.8% less/more than their group represents.​

            P.S. "how does any of this disprove systematic racism which has existed for decades?"

            Didn't know I was trying disprove systemic racism your argument wasn't based on systemic racism it was based on your poor interpretation of marijuana arrests and conflating that with systemic racism...


            why would I try and disprove an ideology based upon crap, it's has no foundation in reality like I said previously people are actively hiring people based on being a "PoC", "Woman", "Disabled" whatever the case may be.

            Albeit to fill quotes but that's besides the point you aren't being hindered in anyway in your life and if you think you are it's because you're mentally weak and can't overcome alleged boogeyman holding you back.

            Whilst simultaneously being in the arguably best country in the world to become successful as a minority.

            Imagine if you were oppressed or systematically disadvantaged like you people claim, you would've roped yourself long ago because you're so fragile...
            Last edited by Boro; 01-17-2024, 07:43 PM. Reason: P.S

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
              Berlanga should fight morrell since both have fought nothing but cans and continue to call out benavidez and canelo. The winner can actually have a decent name in their resume, and maybe be taken a bit more seriously instead of getting ridiculed and roasted.
              The only difference is that Morrell Jr has a Belt, a bs one like all the belts nowadays, it is what it is, and a mandatory position for the last 2 or three years. And he's calling out the boogeyman of the division, the guy you're not going to make a payday but could potentially get the beating of your life, he's calling out the "guy", and the guy is not responding back. We all know why but still not responding, so find something else to comment about the kid.
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              • #57
                Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

                I mean, they both need each other I could care less how bad berlanga gets battered. I tend to agree, morrell hurts him bad
                Morell jr doesn't need berlanga, I read an article about Morrell Jr fighting mbilli if benavidez doesn't fight him.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by garfios View Post

                  Morell jr doesn't need berlanga, I read an article about Morrell Jr fighting mbilli if benavidez doesn't fight him.
                  That’d be a fun one. Respect to both morrell and mbilli if they make they happen next. That’s what the sport needs more of

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Boro View Post

                    You've intentionally ignored the part about me mentioning the amount of drugs they like it's irrelevant, my old neighbour got arrested for the first time in his life and got sentenced to 25 years for ******* because he had millions worth of the stuff.

                    Like I said I said it's disingenuous of you and the fact you're boiling it down to skin colour instead of accounting for other very important variables is kinda weird.

                    Do me a favour and look up how close them crimes are committed to in relation to their population in America.

                    And I think you'll find they're almost identical to their population if not almost exactly representative unsurprisingly, in fact most crimes in America are proportional to their race.

                    Apart from that is at least according to FBI stats DUI is the only crime that's even close to being as disproportionally high as the black communities violent acts.

                    and it's disingenuous to mention mass shootings because you know as well as I do if they counted gang shooting as mass shootings as they should it would tell a whole different story now wouldn't it? but then America would be reporting on mass shootings every other day/week...

                    And FYI based on the FBI stats blacks are still more likely to commit ****, Sex offences excluding rápe and prostitution etc etc

                    Rápe - Whites 69.4% (11.9% more), Blacks 26.7% (105%)

                    SO - Whites 74.6% (20.3%), Black 20.6% (58.5%).

                    Whites representing 69% (11% more than they rep) of all data whilst being what 62%? blacks being 13% of the population and representing 26% (100% more) of the data indicates the opposite is true...

                    There is literally no crimes they commit BELOW their representation in the populace the same can not be said of any other ethnicity.
                    black commit a minimum of 8.5-405.4% more than their racial group represents as a demographic and then cry "systemic racism", it's quite frankly just crying for the sake of it.

                    If you were treat fairly as you want to be more of you would be murdered by cops a year for the sake fairness given the fact you're 2.6x more likely to engage with police at a minimum based on arrests alone but less than half as likely to die to police, though I obviously don't agree with that...

                    Whites commit crimes at -28% - 23.5% less/more than their demographic represents.
                    Asians don't commit any crimes more than they represent as a group.
                    Hispanics commit crimes at -47.4%-46.8% less/more than their group represents.​

                    P.S. "how does any of this disprove systematic racism which has existed for decades?"

                    Didn't know I was trying disprove systemic racism your argument wasn't based on systemic racism it was based on your poor interpretation of marijuana arrests and conflating that with systemic racism...


                    why would I try and disprove an ideology based upon crap, it's has no foundation in reality like I said previously people are actively hiring people based on being a "PoC", "Woman", "Disabled" whatever the case may be.

                    Albeit to fill quotes but that's besides the point you aren't being hindered in anyway in your life and if you think you are it's because you're mentally weak and can't overcome alleged boogeyman holding you back.

                    Whilst simultaneously being in the arguably best country in the world to become successful as a minority.

                    Imagine if you were oppressed or systematically disadvantaged like you people claim, you would've roped yourself long ago because you're so fragile...

                    White people make up just 8% of the world yet are the biggest ********* organisation in the history of the planet. Committed the most most massacres, most genocides, most wars, most white collar crime, most vandalism of the earth, racism, white supremacy, discrimination, most environmental destruction, animal cruelty, embezzlement, hi*******, hooliganism, manslaughter, mutila*ion, torture, ****, vampirism. White people are #1 in every subject possible, scary.




                    I’m sorry, but petty gang violence in the U.S from the most impoverished group of people living in poverty stricken conditions due to the aftermath of slavery, just doesn’t compare.




                    First you bring up the point below




                    “And they're also basically the only race that commits almost all crimes massively disproportionately regardless of where they live - France, UK, America, South America so on and so forth.”







                    I expose that point as being untrue on a worldwide level, then after being proven wrong you ignore my response and go directly to U.S crime stats LOL. You continue having your own debate there..




                    “and it's disingenuous to mention mass shootings because you know as well as I do if they counted gang shooting as mass shootings as they should it would tell a whole different story now wouldn't it? but then America would be reporting on mass shootings every other day/week...”




                    Clearly you need to work on your information. A mass shooting is 3 or more people being k*lled in a single incident or attempting to in a populated area. So no, your point would not add up. School shoot*rs, white *********s & people that hate g*ys and blacks - who shoot up cinemas, restaurants and airports. All white, sick.




                    I could say the exact same thing about all the countries and innocent people the U.S has dropped b*mbs on and mass m*rdere*d in plain sight, especially in the Middle East..very easily. And on a way bigger scale too. Over 400,000 innocent people k*lled in Iraq & Afghanistan alone, truly truly evil.










                    “You've intentionally ignored the part about me mentioning the amount of drugs they like it's irrelevant, my old neighbour got arrested for the first time in his life and got sentenced to 25 years for ******* because he had millions worth of the stuff.”







                    You have to be special. There’s numerous studies that are done from scenarios where they’ve had similar amount of drugs and the African-Americans are still given harsher sentences.. nice try. You think the studies are based on one guy being caught with a kilo & the other being caught with a gram lol? The level of denial is crazy, but expected. Majority of white people in high positions have a racial bias. They’ve even done mass studies based on applying for loans with a similar credit score and history - white vs black, guess who gets tue better end of the stick?




                    “black commit a minimum of 8.5-405.4% more than their racial group represents as a demographic and then cry "systemic racism", it's quite frankly just crying for the sake of it.”




                    You and I both know racism & systematic racism was being practiced long before drug & gang related crimes were that high in impoverished black communities. Give it a rest. You think gang crime amongst the black community was high in the 50’s and 60’s? Drug misuse and drug supplying too? Still systematic racism existed regardless, still black people being abused by racist police and being shot..there’s zero link try again. Hopefully you’re learning something & now you might say something that actually makes sense.. not the same drivel.




                    Here’s another example of where systematic racism:

                    Black people are about 7˝ times more likely to be wrongfully convicted of murder in the U.S. than are whites, and about 80% more likely to be innocent than others convicted of murder, according to a new report by the National Registry of Exonerations. The already disproportionate risk of wrongful conviction, the Registry found, was even worse if the murder victim in a case was white.

                    The report, Race and Wrongful Convictions in the United States 2022, reviewed the cases of 3,200 innocent defendants exonerated in the United States since 1989. Black people, the researchers found, were 7 times more likely to be wrongfully convicted, were more likely to be the targets of police misconduct, and more likely to be imprisoned longer before being exonerated.




                    Crime rates vary significantly between racial groups, however, academic research indicates that the over-representation of some racial ********** in the criminal justice system can in part be explained by socioeconomic factors such as poverty, exposure to poor neighborhoods, poor access to public and early education, and exposure to harmful chemicals (such as lead and pollution. Racial housing segregation also been linked to racial disparities in crime rates, as blacks have historically and to the present been prevented from moving into prosperous low-crime areas through actions of the government (such as redlining and private actors. Heck before 1964 black people didn’t have the right to vote or the right to buy a house/in neighborhood of their choice. Barely 60 years ago.

                    It’s really not my fault, you have a basic mindset and see everything as black & white - (often the case with white privilege)




                    I’ve had some intelligent debates with white people about these subjects and they’ve come to and understanding. It all starts with being truthful. Have a great day!
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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by messi807 View Post


                      I’m sorry, but petty gang violence in the U.S from the most impoverished group of people living in poverty stricken conditions due to the aftermath of slavery, just doesn’t compare.

                      I expose that point as being untrue on a worldwide level, then after being proven wrong you ignore my response and go directly to U.S crime stats LOL. You continue having your own debate there..

                      Clearly you need to work on your information. A mass shooting is 3 or more people being k*lled in a single incident or attempting to in a populated area. So no, your point would not add up. School shoot*rs, white *********s & people that hate g*ys and blacks - who shoot up cinemas, restaurants and airports. All white, sick.

                      “black commit a minimum of 8.5-405.4% more than their racial group represents as a demographic and then cry "systemic racism", it's quite frankly just crying for the sake of it.”

                      You and I both know racism & systematic racism was being practiced long before drug & gang related crimes were that high in impoverished black communities. Give it a rest. You think gang crime amongst the black community was high in the 50’s and 60’s? Drug misuse and drug supplying too? Still systematic racism existed regardless, still black people being abused by racist police and being shot..there’s zero link try again. Hopefully you’re learning something & now you might say something that actually makes sense.. not the same drivel.

                      Except there is plenty of "impoverished" people of every race but they don't all turn to crime.

                      But the stats show that blacks in every country do crimes at a disproportionate rate no matter what.

                      Like I said the UK they're not even 3% of the population yet blacks are still the most likely to be criminals based on their representation as a demographic, in fact they're 2.4x more likely to be criminals than any other race.

                      Whilst it's well established ******s have the most pull and shít in prisons.

                      In fact the least likely to do crimes is Asians than Whites in the UK, if we were to apply the ****** one drop rule like America does.

                      Again you're being disingenuous about the mass shooting crap, you know as well as I do that there is plenty of times more than 3 people die in drive bys and the likes.

                      Including but not limited to completely unrelated civvies in their garden having a BBQ or something and no all mass shooters aren't white...

                      Whilst it's true the majority have been by white perpetrators which you'd expect in a majority white country the next largest group is ironically blacks who would've guessed, followed by Latinos?

                      As for your BS about hating the gáys, I don't even know why you felt the need to mention that, given the amount of black ******s and Afro-Caribbean blacks who despise gáys as much as the next person...

                      Blacks were doing better under the "racist system" of the 50s and 60s, the nuclear family was still intact, their average net worth was higher, the crime rate was lower and there was a real sense of community...

                      When you ask for handouts and get them you as group become weaker as your women are incentivised to kick men out of the home for a cheque, your collective willingness to improve diminishes, you capcity to blame everything on some alleged boogeyman increases and nothing is ever your own fault, it's all systemic racism...

                      The very same systems you repeatedly continue to vote for time and time again for decades upon decades now, are the "systemic racism" upholding crap you're crying about.

                      Like you literally voted in ***** who passed the 93 "predators on our street" act...
                      Last edited by Boro; 01-25-2024, 08:50 AM.

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