Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua Wants To Be in Massive Fights, Win a Title, Face Fury or Usyk Trilogy

[diarraisagod]

It might be big in the uk but it certainly wouldn’t “tarnish” his legacy if they didn’t fight as he’d be beating a guy who beat AJ twice. The legacy tarnishing is between AJ and Wilder as they never faced each other when the fight mattered. Now they’re no longer what they were perceived to be.

Disagree that it wouldn't tarnish his legacy. If it doesn't happen people will forever ask both of them about what would've happened.

They're rivals, there's a ton of money in it and they've both consistently been at the top end of the same generation of heavyweights. There would be a glaring hole in both of their records if it didn't happen.

I agree about Wilder though. That fight should've happened. Though it was a done deal. Can't blame AJ for Wilder failing to beat Parker. Nor his inactivity.

Supposing though neither a Wilder nor a Fury fight happens for AJ. The one that will bother the UK public much more is missing a Fury fight.

[Jab jab boom]

Disagree that it wouldn't tarnish his legacy. If it doesn't happen people will forever ask both of them about what would've happened.

They're rivals, there's a ton of money in it and they've both consistently been at the top end of the same generation of heavyweights. There would be a glaring hole in both of their records if it didn't happen.

I agree about Wilder though. That fight should've happened. Though it was a done deal. Can't blame AJ for Wilder failing to beat Parker. Nor his inactivity.

Supposing though neither a Wilder nor a Fury fight happens for AJ. The one that will bother the UK public much more is missing a Fury fight.

If fury beats Usyk, I highly doubt anyone will ask him about AJ yrs from now.

[Idunnoshet]

I said I didn't think he was afraid of him which is why I believe it will happen. But there's no reason for that fight not to happen if both keep winning.

You did say you didn't think Fury was afraid to fight AJ.
But you also said it didn't make sense for him to retire without making the fight " unless " he's afraid ?

I don't think Fury needs AJ for his legacy to be cemented ( if he beats Usyk ).

I think they Should fight.
But I don't see it as a Must for Fury.

You made a good point though.

To the UK fans it is a huge fight.
So I can see where you get that perspective.

[Monty Fisto]

Finally Eddie comes out and says something real.

Their plan was always to duck any legit contender and crush cans to build AJ up into "hot property" while waiting for a gift wrapped paper belt to become available or a cash out fight against an old, out of shape and unmotivated Fury.

AJ dont want any of that Zhang, Parker, Sanchez, Wilder or any other big name fight. He just wants to be A-side Joshy, 3 time world champ who earphoned his way to victory and dialed in the wins on social media.

1. AJ already fought Parker, so we already know if he wanted that fight.
2. He doesn't want Sanchez, no. Because it's not a big fight and we all know who would win easily.
3. Every fighter is going to take the fight that offers most rewards. Hrgovic ticks a lot of boxes right now and I think that will be next. Shoot the man for wanting to win a belt back.

[pollywog]

1. AJ already fought Parker, so we already know if he wanted that fight.
2. He doesn't want Sanchez, no. Because it's not a big fight and we all know who would win easily.
3. Every fighter is going to take the fight that offers most rewards. Hrgovic ticks a lot of boxes right now and I think that will be next. Shoot the man for wanting to win a belt back.

Shoot the man for ducking fighters worthy of taking his place ahead of the queue. Shoot the man for aging fighters he never backed himself to defeat. Shoot the man for pricing himself out of fights. Shoot the man for endless rematch clauses.

Aint nothing wrong with wanting to win a belt back. But the guy shot himself in the foot by not unifying the belts when he had a chance.

All he had to do was beat Usyk and Fury was waiting for him. He couldn't...twice.

[diarraisagod]

If fury beats Usyk, I highly doubt anyone will ask him about AJ yrs from now.

If they weren't from the same country I might agree with you. But in the UK it matters. It's bragging rights over a fierce rival.

It's not like AJ is a nobody either. We're talking about a former unified champion who's been sitting in the Top 5 for a really long time. The sort of opponent you're supposed to fight if you're "the man"

[pollywog]

I said I didn't think he was afraid of him which is why I believe it will happen. But there's no reason for that fight not to happen if both keep winning.

Yes there is.

Fury aint gonna give AJ a chance to take his O and undisputed, unified over some pissy UK rivalry.

He already called him out but A-side Joshy wasnt prepared to play second fiddle to the Gypsy King.

If Fury beats Usyk and retires. He'll forever have bragging rights over AJ in doing the very thing AJ couldn't and never will.

No money in the world can buy that and Fury doesnt need the money.

[MulaKO]

Slow Eddie is solidifying the fact that they will protect AJ until an easy champ comes along for a last hurrah
Nobody is really fooled by his last two wins

[Oshio]

Help me understand how Fury is " afraid " to fight AJ when he's already signed to fight the guy who beat AJ Twice ?

This statement is so naive. Boxing doesn't work that way, man. The fact that AJ beats Parker and now Parker has beaten Wilder does not mean that Wilder cannot beat AJ. Styles make fight.

Or, imagine Otto Walin given Fury problems to the extent of busting open his eye, and AJ just dominate him and get him out of there in 5. See?

[Idunnoshet]

I'm not using triangle theory to guess who " beats " who.
We're talking about the assumption that a World Champion profession boxer is Afraid to fight another one.

Like Floyd being Afraid of Pac.
Or Canelo being Afraid of GGG.

Naive is thinking these guys are Afraid of each other.

It might be true in rare instances.
But Fury being Afraid to fight AJ ?
Nah man.
I don't buy it.


****This was posted as a response to oshio.