Parker should fight Zhang next

[Atypicalbrit]

...and yet somehow Parker is behind Joshua in the rankings because apparently Joshys last 2 wins over his sparring partner and an MMA guy, rate better than Parkers win over 2 top 5 guys.

Go figure...

Joshua is ahead on the rankings based on entire body of work, recent form and ability.

Parker has slightly better recent form, but less of a body of work overall, less ability overall and has a H2H loss to Joshua.

You can say you think Parker would win now but that's speculation and it's hard to put Parker over a guy who has already beaten him especially when Parker has a recent devastating loss to a guy who doesn't even factor into the current title scene.

It's hard to say if Parkers wins over Zhang and Wilder say more about how good Parker is or how overrated those two were, and for being 40 year old men they were both overrated, it was ludicrous to me how people just ignored Zhangs advanced age and proven terrible stamina.

[pollywog]

Joshua is ahead on the rankings based on entire body of work, recent form and ability.

Bullshït!!!

Parker's recent body of work and ability speak for themselves.

Joshua hasnt fought a legit top 10 guy in over 2 years. Parker fought and beat 2 legit top 5 guys in the last 6 months.

Dont get it twisted. Joshua is ahead because the alphabet orgs can make more commission from an AJ fight than a Parker one.

[Atypicalbrit]

Bullshït!!!

Parker's recent body of work and ability speak for themselves.

Joshua hasnt fought a legit top 10 guy in over 2 years. Parker fought and beat 2 legit top 5 guys in the last 6 months.

Dont get it twisted. Joshua is ahead because the alphabet orgs can make more commission from an AJ fight than a Parker one.

If that were true why is Joshua unanimously ranked higher on independent rankings organisations The Ring, the Trpb and boxrec?

Theres not one single ranking system that has JP higher, they can't all be biased.

[pollywog]

If that were true why is Joshua unanimously ranked higher on independent rankings organisations The Ring, the Trpb and boxrec?

Theres not one single ranking system that has JP higher, they can't all be biased.

Sure they can be and must be.

I could understand the rankings if it were Joshua who shut out Wilder in a unanimous decision and got up from 2 knockdowns against Zhang to beat him over the distance...

...but he didn't!

He's done jack shït since losing to Usyk. The only way i can make sense of it is that Fast Eddie gives the best blowies and overstuffs the brown envelopes.

[N/A]

It's hard to say if Parkers wins over Zhang and Wilder say more about how good Parker is or how overrated those two were, and for being 40 year old men they were both overrated, it was ludicrous to me how people just ignored Zhangs advanced age and proven terrible stamina.

Let's say there is some validity in that. Then it is easy to say that AJ's wins over the old and always average Helenius and the average Franklin prove he is not on a great comeback or transformed into "AJ V2". Not even his victory over Francis. His only legit top opponent was Otto, but they were sparring partners, so AJ knew him very well.

The last opponents of Parker are of better quality than AJ's. I think that currently, he deserves a higher place in the rankings - what's wrong with that? Whether he is the better boxer now I can't tell, probably not, I consider his loss to AJ. But instead of calling Whyte, AJ can rematch Parker, if he doesn't intend to fight some other top 10.

[Atypicalbrit]

Let's say there is some validity in that. Then it is easy to say that AJ's wins over the old and always average Helenius and the average Franklin prove he is not on a great comeback or transformed into "AJ V2". Not even his victory over Francis. His only legit top opponent was Otto, but they were sparring partners, so AJ knew him very well.

The last opponents of Parker are of better quality than AJ's. I think that currently, he deserves a higher place in the rankings - what's wrong with that? Whether he is the better boxer now I can't tell, probably not, I consider his loss to AJ. But instead of calling Whyte, AJ can rematch Parker, if he doesn't intend to fight some other top 10.

I think both statements are simultaneously true.

AJ hasn't proven to me that he's any better than he has been in the past, his wins over Wallin and Ngannou were against lower opposition. I did however see noticeable improvements in Joshuas attitude and focus in those fights compared to his recent form. You can't say he wasn't better against Wallin than he was against Franklin.

Parker's wins over Wallin and Wilder were over overhyped old fighters, be aware I picked Parker to win both fights and especially in the Zhang fight I was pointing to Zhangs age and stamina, the fact that most boxing fans are reactionary and foolish and were picking Zhang isn't my fault. The improvement in Parker is that he doesn't switch off in fights anymore however he has become flat footed so that's his drawback.

People can argue the rankings all they like, the fact is Parker has NEVER been ranked higher than AJ, lost head to head to AJ, has 2 defences of a single belt on his resume vs AJ who has 7 defences of 3 belts and is a 2 time champion who has won two unification bouts.

AJ's only recent losses were two points losses to the pound for pound number 1 while Parker's was a brutal KO loss to a guy who just fought in a leisure center, and if we are being honest should have a loss to Derek Chisora from their first fight a couple of years back.

Put it another way Parker has a recent ko loss to a guy ranked below AJ, AJ's recent losses were to a guy ranked above Parker.

Credit Parker for his two recent good wins but it's not enough to overtake a man who has achieved FAR more than Parker has in his career.

That's all.

[pollywog]

I think both statements are simultaneously true.

AJ hasn't proven to me that he's any better than he has been in the past, his wins over Wallin and Ngannou were against lower opposition. I did however see noticeable improvements in Joshuas attitude and focus in those fights compared to his recent form. You can't say he wasn't better against Wallin than he was against Franklin.

Parker's wins over Wallin and Wilder were over overhyped old fighters, be aware I picked Parker to win both fights and especially in the Zhang fight I was pointing to Zhangs age and stamina, the fact that most boxing fans are reactionary and foolish and were picking Zhang isn't my fault. The improvement in Parker is that he doesn't switch off in fights anymore however he has become flat footed so that's his drawback.

People can argue the rankings all they like, the fact is Parker has NEVER been ranked higher than AJ, lost head to head to AJ, has 2 defences of a single belt on his resume vs AJ who has 7 defences of 3 belts and is a 2 time champion who has won two unification bouts.

AJ's only recent losses were two points losses to the pound for pound number 1 while Parker's was a brutal KO loss to a guy who just fought in a leisure center, and if we are being honest should have a loss to Derek Chisora from their first fight a couple of years back.

Put it another way Parker has a recent ko loss to a guy ranked below AJ, AJ's recent losses were to a guy ranked above Parker.

Credit Parker for his two recent good wins but it's not enough to overtake a man who has achieved FAR more than Parker has in his career.

That's all.

It's not about the recent losses. Its about the recent wins. Parker's wins are far superior against better quality opposition.

Downplay Parker's wins against Wilder and Zhang all you like but they are still 2 guys Joshua didnt want to face so didnt.

Parker also beat Ruiz, the guy who made Joshua quit in his corner and then ran away from for a pitty pat victory in another of his bullshït A-Side rematch clauses.

Parker was a far better champion and has faced the best of his era with no excuses from him for his losses and no sense of entitlement to his wins.

We all know what Usyk did to Joshua, twice and how he embarrassed himself in the aftermath. No one needs to have a 3 peat for pretty much the same result.

A Parker v Joshua rematch is a fight the fans deserve. If 1 v 2 is Fury v Usyk and 3 or 4 is debatable. Then match 3 v 4 and sort out who is better and deserving of a title shot after Usyk v Fury.

As is, Joshua is running scared of everyone in the top 10 because he hasn't faced any though he could have if he wanted to.

Most of all he's ducking Parker.

[Atypicalbrit]

Parker was a far better champion

Oh my

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His defenses were Razvan Cojanu and Hughie Fury

Parker was a far better champion

Ohhhhhh my

Klitschko
Parker
Povetkin
Pulev
Takam

Vs

Cojanu
Hughie fury

Parker was a far better champion

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my

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Triangle theories, guys:

• Parker beat Ruiz who beat AJ. AJ beat Parker.
• Parker lost to Joyce who lost to Zhang twice. Parker beat Zhang.

No conclusions can be made, except fighters need activity right because interesting things come out when less or even not expected.

[Atypicalbrit]

Triangle theories, guys:

• Parker beat Ruiz who beat AJ. AJ beat Parker.
• Parker lost to Joyce who lost to Zhang twice. Parker beat Zhang.

No conclusions can be made, except fighters need activity right because interesting things come out when less or even not expected.

Yeah but a conclusion can be made of The fact that AJ actually beat Parker.

No triangles needed for that one