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  • #21
    I'm less impressed than some with wins over Spence and Andrade. Andrade still has zero wins over a champion of any sort, and only one fight against a former champ, which he lost. Beating him doesn't really do much for me. Plant is a good win in my book, since I think well of his skillset, but didn't think Benavidez was that impressive in that fight. I would put Bam Rodriguez over Benavidez personally.

    As for Spence, people value that win because they claim he was P4P, but I've never agreed with that. He's got 3 wins over people who were actually active champions. The rest of his big wins were against former champions moving up in weight, and all his accomplishments have been in one division. I don't put Tank Davis in my P4P, and don't think he belongs until at minimum he fights a champion in his own division on even terms without rehydration clauses and other BS.

    I respect Bud for absolutely dominating him, and don't hold the fact that he only fought once in the year against him because that's the fault of rematch clause BS. But I consider him a top divisional fighter at his own weight class, and he's got zero bonafides outside of that, nor is his skillset that impressive. Heck, Sunny Edwards had almost as many title defenses in one weight class, and was the #1 in said weight class. He's not P4P.

    Haney I thought lost his fight against Loma, and was not impressed with Prograis, who wasn't in good form anyways before that fight.

    Josh Taylor also had lost a lot of luster, having ****** against Catterall and dropping so many belts ostensibly to fight the rematch, only to duck him when it came down to it. Props to Teo for that win, which I thought was a virtuoso performance, but it's still one fight, and IMO similar to Bud's victory over Spence, but not as good of a win in terms of manner of win or quality.

    Honorable mention to Ngannou, who SHOULD have gotten Upset of the Year IMO, and really exposed Tyson Fury.

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    • #22
      Inoue is for casual, dumb fanboys who get impressed easily as he fought no-names and low quality fighters to be undisputed. He is the weakest name in the list. Crawford's win was more impressive as he made one of the top fighter in the pound for pound list look like an amateur by shutting down and countering everything spence threw. Devin haney beat the matrix loma and dominated a very good name, regis. Benavidez also did well, dominating good names like plant and andrade.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        Feels like a soft year & wide open for some alternative takes to me.

        Bud only had 1 fight, but its for undisputed & over a future HOF guy.

        Monster is likely to be penalized by some for being a lil guy, but a lot of ppl knew Fulton so that might help him be ppl's pick.

        Devin beat a HOFer & the a top 2 guy in his 2nd division.

        David B was looking nasty as the #2 guy at 168 vs two top ten ex belt guys.

        I think you might even be able to argue 1 fight Teo is in the discussion with that Josh W.

        Mostly it feels like it should be Bud vs Monster for #1, but I wouldn't be shocked if some media/folks got one of the other 3.
        Lmao such a bold take. Spencerina is a hall of fame now? Then surely Thurman is as well?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

          Dec last year.

          Teo only fought once this year but put on a great performance over the #1 guy at 140. Thats a quality W in quality form & puts him in honorable mention foty territory imo.
          Lmfao nvm you leave context out of things. You're opinion is not to be taken seriously

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          • #25
            Out of the guys who are nominated, none of them were underdogs like Bud. While the other guys beat good fighters, they weren’t underdogs. People really thought that Spence would whoop Buds ass and have since changed their opinions on how good Spence is instead of bigging up Bud on his master class. In a way they’ve discredited h Buds monster win because of his so called weak chin and so called being easy to hit and “the now famous “Spence was overrated” argument when none of that was true. I told you all this before the fight but you were so hell bent on seeing Bud beat that you lost money lmao. But I’ve seen this happen for over 40+ years. Opinions change like the weather.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
              Out of the guys who are nominated, none of them were underdogs like Bud. While the other guys beat good fighters, they weren’t underdogs. People really thought that Spence would whoop Buds ass and have since changed their opinions on how good Spence is instead of bigging up Bud on his master class. In a way they’ve discredited h Buds monster win because of his so called weak chin and so called being easy to hit and “the now famous “Spence was overrated” argument when none of that was true. I told you all this before the fight but you were so hell bent on seeing Bud beat that you lost money lmao. But I’ve seen this happen for over 40+ years. Opinions change like the weather.
              How big were the odds? Since you keep calling bud (who I was rooting for) an underdog when the odds were like 2 to 1


              Parker upsetting windmill was much bigger. People actually gave bud a chance
              Last edited by Teetotaler69; 12-29-2023, 12:51 AM.

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              • #27
                How is Benavidez even up for consideration by many around here? He beat a Canelo leftover and an undersized quitter that had never fought a real champion and was never anything at 168.

                Monster Inoue should be FOTY or even Haney has a good argument despite the Lomachenko decision.

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                • #28
                  Inoue wins are much better than Crawford's ONE win. It's much more difficult beating multiple top level opponents than one partially shot opponent. Spence used to be a good fighter but he hasn't looked good recently and he's been out of the ring for a long time. Nobody should be given Fighter of The Year award for just ONE win. That's ridiculous!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post

                    Lmao such a bold take. Spencerina is a hall of fame now? Then surely Thurman is as well?
                    Go look at the HOF & tell me Errol ain't in it. Some of y'all act like 1 guy gets in a year or some sh^t. They are putting 30 guys in per decade. Anyone who was on the P4P list for awhile, kept a belt(s) for awhile & was a big name for awhile is a virtual lock to be among those elected as long as he doesn't kill someone between now & his eligibility year....and even then who knows.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post

                      Lmfao nvm you leave context out of things. You're opinion is not to be taken seriously
                      Bruh you don't even have opinions to be taken any kind of way. You just glass half empty the whole sport, other posters, anyone who loses a fight or damn near anything day in day out. You are a boring azz predictable hater.

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