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  • #21
    Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

    Which is why Canelo cherry picked him thinking his judges would give him the decision. Almost worked.
    Maybe idk.

    I don't fault dude for not KOing Alvarez either obv. But most of these guys he's fighting & not able to stop is a bad look.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
      I mean Saturday they both ****** for different reasons. Bivol underperformed by not getting rid of a guy who's well beneath his skill level. And Wilder ****** for not even showing up to fight lol. Just cuz they ****** for different reasons doesn't mean they both didn't suck. That said I think everyone would prefer to suck while winning so Bivol ****** less & won the day over Wilder in that way at least.

      And look this ain't a Bivol thing. This is a boring thing. Bivol, Nunn, Winky, Macho, Floyd, Shakur are/have been deemed boring fighters at various times by fans. This IS an entertainment sport at the end of the day. Winning is only part of the goal one should be trying to achieve if one is smart & if you aren't a lot of fans are not gonna enjoy watching you.

      It reallllllllllllly ain't even that serious. If Bivol is happy winning above being winning while entertaining he's obv able to do just that. But fans are just as able to be bored seeing him fight that way.
      Man, you are comparing the guy that won every round with the guy that lost every round.

      I see no difference between Arthur and Wilder on saturday night.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

        Maybe idk.

        I don't fault dude for not KOing Alvarez either obv. But most of these guys he's fighting & not able to stop is a bad look.
        Again, why? He is pillow fisted guy. he is actually a super middleweight fighting at 175.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

          Man, you are comparing the guy that won every round with the guy that lost every round.
          I'm comparing two guys, who had very different outcomes, not living up to expectations. Everything is relative. With great power comes great responsibility as Spiderman said. And while how Deontay sh^t the bed was messier & worse for him, Bivol sh^t the bed with another boring fight where he couldn't finish the job with a far inferior opp.

          Like I said tho, fair play to Bivol if he wants to just win while going 12 vs lesser guys every fight. BUT he's gonna get sh^t on by fans for not living up to his talent. Idek why you gaf if ppl think Bivol is boring. I enjoyed Floyd & Nunn when they fought, but a lot of folks found them boring too. Enjoy Bivol if you wish, but a lot of us just find him boring & under performing when in with a lower skill guy like he was Saturday.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

            I'm comparing two guys, who had very different outcomes, not living up to expectations. Everything is relative. With great power comes great responsibility as Spiderman said. And while how Deontay sh^t the bed was messier & worse for him, Bivol sh^t the bed with another boring fight where he couldn't finish the job with a far inferior opp.

            Like I said tho, fair play to Bivol if he wants to just win while going 12 vs lesser guys every fight. BUT he's gonna get sh^t on by fans for not living up to his talent. Idek why you gaf if ppl think Bivol is boring. I enjoyed Floyd & Nunn when they fought, but a lot of folks found them boring too. Enjoy Bivol if you wish, but a lot of us just find him boring & under performing when in with a lower skill guy like he was Saturday.
            Boxing is about winning, not about your mental gymnastics.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

              Again, why? He is pillow fisted guy. he is actually a super middleweight fighting at 175.
              Because generally guys stop opps they are far better than at Bivol's level. Like I've shown even confirmed light hitters in recent times haven't had 9 fights in a row of distance fights esp at 12 rds. Devin gots 8 in a row & he gets dogged on all the time for it while fighting better quality opps so why is Bivol above being sh^t on for his under performance vs lesser guys?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                Boxing is about winning, not about your mental gymnastics.
                I mean kinda. But its kinda about ppl wanting to see you fight cuz they are invested in you or how you fight too. Its not just one of those things. Its both. If its not both then why did Ryan just make $30M earlier this year? Why does Jake Paul have a career? Why did Tyson & RJJ have a fight awhile back? You're pretending to not know how the boxing world moves over this boring mfer. We both know how things work. Ppl wanna be entertained. Sh^t thats why Deontay was higher up on the card than Bivol. Granted Deontay sh^t the bed Saturday, but he's got a better history of ppl giving a fook about his fights & entertaining fans even after Bivol has beaten the biggest name in the game. If that don't tell you whats up idk what will.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

                  Sh^t man, Pillowfist Haney only got 8 W12's in a row, but at least he's fighting belt guys.

                  And Bivol is below Floyd in KO % now. Floyd KO'd 54% of his opps, Bivol is at 50% now. Dude ain't stopped anyone since the early part of Trump's 2nd year as President.
                  He broke his hand dude...might have been damaged for some time now. He will probably always be pretty careful with it, I suspect. Had Artur not have gone down, the fight would have likely been stopped by the referee in one or two more punches.

                  It's pretty hard to fight belt-holders when only one other guy has all the other belts, but it looks like it happening soon in Saudi Arabia, because that was mentioned when he signed the contract, he said after the fight. It's not like he's ducking anyone. They were trying to block him out of the Beterbiev fight. I thought he fought a technically perfect fight and had amazing stamina. Bivol vs Beterbiev would be the biggest match-up in the sport.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by jaded View Post

                    He broke his hand dude...might have been damaged for some time now. He will probably always be pretty careful with it, I suspect. Had Artur not have gone down, the fight would have likely been stopped by the referee in one or two more punches.

                    It's pretty hard to fight belt-holders when only one other guy has all the other belts, but it looks like it happening soon in Saudi Arabia, because that was mentioned when he signed the contract, he said after the fight. It's not like he's ducking anyone. They were trying to block him out of the Beterbiev fight. I thought he fought a technically perfect fight and had amazing stamina. Bivol vs Beterbiev would be the biggest match-up in the sport.
                    He hand was clearly fine he was throwing as hard and often as he always does. Stop with these dumb narratives that are not real. Fighters test their hands in the gym you act as if he never through punch until the fight started. Heard of sparring? Hitting bags?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

                      He hand was clearly fine he was throwing as hard and often as he always does. Stop with these dumb narratives that are not real. Fighters test their hands in the gym you act as if he never through punch until the fight started. Heard of sparring? Hitting bags?
                      Go back and watch the post fight interview. He said he was cautious with it because he wasn't sure.

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