Comments Thread For: Hearn: If [Estrada] Wasn't Impressed With Bam, Then It Should Be An Easy Fight To Make

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And Canelo ducked a Bivol rematch………

No he didn’t, he offered Bivol his career high payday again for a rematch.

And Bivol ducked, in order to not make any money by staying inactive. And to make less money when he finally did get a fight.

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So they are going to take less against other fighters rather than just accept their career high payday again for a rematch? That’s not very logical.

Offering the same purse can’t be offering a career high. Simple math isn’t your strong suit. Who passes on a chance to avenge a bad loss and handicap their opponent at the same time? Canelo that’s who. Quack quack.

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Back to the subject at hand. At his best, I think Estrada beats Bam. Anything less, I’d favor Bam.

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Offering the same purse can’t be offering a career high. Simple math isn’t your strong suit. Who passes on a chance to avenge a bad loss and handicap their opponent at the same time? Canelo that’s who. Quack quack.

Has Bivol ever made more for a fight than what he made against Canelo? Yes or no?

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Has Bivol ever made more for a fight than what he made against Canelo? Yes or no?

Does offering the same exact pure equate into a career high purse? Yes or no?

Give it up, your love interest (Canelo) ran away from a Bivol rematch like a scared little girl. He even ran to a different promoter knowing that puts up fences to keep the rematch from happening.

[Malvado]

It's messed up how many Mexican fighters do not respect Mexican-American fighters. I remember when Marquez before the fight with Juan Diaz said that Diaz could not beat him because he was a true Mexican. And when Oscar fought Chavez, all the fans from south of the border who had supported Oscar, were 100% against him when those two fought. And now this. I don't know if it is jealousy or envy or cultural isolation or something else. In each of those cases and others it bugged me to hear about such a lack of support. I don't see how Estrada cannot be impressed with Jesse, he does everything well. Could be as simple as a core rivalry and not related to the things I mentioned. But I think would be the same with probably every culture. Japanese-American fought a Japanese fighter, German-American fought a Germen. I once told Danny Garcia that I thought it was great that he had a warm welcome when he visited PR for a fight once (they even had the "I'm Coming Home" music) but to always remember home is where you were raised and that if he had fought a PR born and raised on the island that they would turn their backs on him because he was not fully one of them, their culture, their lifestyle, their origin. It is a sad commentary on the territorial nature of culture but it fits the expression of It is what it is, or what I always say, It is what it isn't. Can't say I'm sure Estrada turns his nose up to Jesse for that reason or just because he competes in his weight areas, but wouldn't surprise me if that is the case as modern history has shown this. But it was a rotten thing for Marquez to say about Juan Diaz, not necessary to put him down just because he was a Mexican-American.

There is really not many examples of the Mexican fan base (even the American Mexican base) ever supporting a Mexican American over a Mexican born fighter.

Danny Lopez vs Sanchez 1-2
De La Hoya vs Chavez 1-2
Corrales vs Castillo 1-2
Marquez vs Diaz 1-2
Chacon vs Olivares/Limon
Zarate vs Davila
Carbajal vs Gonzalez 1-2
Barrera vs Tapia
Hernandez vs Paez
Arce vs Carbajal
Garcia vs Salido

etc.

Doubt Bam Rodriguez and David Benavidez are popular enough to break the mold.

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Does offering the same exact pure equate into a career high purse? Yes or no?

Give it up, your love interest (Canelo) ran away from a Bivol rematch like a scared little girl. He even ran to a different promoter knowing that puts up fences to keep the rematch from happening.

You don’t know how to just answer yes or no, do you?

Here, I’ll show you. Yes, offering the exact same purse does equate to a career high purse if Bivol has never made more than that in his entire career.

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You don’t know how to just answer yes or no, do you?

Here, I’ll show you. Yes, offering the exact same purse does equate to a career high purse if Bivol has never made more than that in his entire career.

So in your pea sized brain 2 is more than 2. Got it, you’re an idiot with a man crush on Canelo.

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So in your pea sized brain 2 is more than 2. Got it, you’re an idiot with a man crush on Canelo.

Has Bivol’s career highest purse come against Canelo? Yes or no?

[IronDanHamza]

You don’t know how to just answer yes or no, do you?

Here, I’ll show you. Yes, offering the exact same purse does equate to a career high purse if Bivol has never made more than that in his entire career.

!!!

That has to be intentionally ironic.

Let's give this one a try for you, since you mentioned the yes or no answers;

Is James Toney an ATG?

Yes or no?