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  • pollywog
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    #21
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
    AJ looked a lot better than he has. Ben Davison is clearly doing a lot of things right. But I don't think beating Wallin proves much.

    I also don't really think Parker's performance was that impressive. Any of the guys who know how to throw an uppercut and figure out an opponent's timing could have beaten Parker as he lunged in over and over. For me, that had a lot more to do with Wilder inexplicably thinking that he's a heavyweight Rigo all of a sudden and trying to box, of all things, on the back foot, and not throwing any bombs. Absolutely awful tactic, and zero help from his "trainer." Kinda like Sunny Edwards trying to slug it out with Bam Rodriguez. Play to your strengths, especially in one of the biggest fights of your career.
    Parker had the balls to step in with Wilder when most were too scared to mention his name.

    Parker then beat him up from pillar to post and you dont think that's impressive citing a game plan specifically devised to neutralize Wilder and no one else.

    Broooo just STFU, double down on that crack pipe and have yourself a very merry Christmas.

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    • crimsonfalcon07
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      #22
      Originally posted by pollywog

      Parker had the balls to step in with Wilder when most were too scared to mention his name.

      Parker then beat him up from pillar to post and you dont think that's impressive citing a game plan specifically devised to neutralize Wilder and no one else.

      Broooo just STFU, double down on that crack pipe and have yourself a very merry Christmas.
      Not really, no. His gameplan could very easily have gone out the window and ended with him getting knocked out had Wilder thrown punches. He was averaging like 3 a round. Dude was on his bike pretending he was a slick outfighter. When have you ever seen Wilder do that? He was trying check hooks. When have you ever seen Wilder do that?

      Parker's gameplan was to be aggressive and lunge in. If Wilder had been doing his usual, and throwing 1-2's down the middle, and jabs down the middle, Parker would have walked right into a punch and been in trouble. Against anyone with an uppercut, he'd have been in trouble. Wilder even nearly caught him with an uppercut, and Wilder isn't really known for those.

      Wilder wasn't throwing at all, even when Parker was doing nothing, and that's because he was looking for a single counter shot. He and his corner made zero adjustments, and didn't even seem to realize they were losing. That comes down to Wilder blowing it, not Parker doing things well. You seem to be in love with the line the commentary team was pushing, but lunging in is rarely a gameplan worthy of praise. Looked like a heavyweight Edgar Berlanga.

      You seem to think Wilder fighting in a completely uncharacteristic way is because Parker was lunging in with shots and then clinching. I think the evidence for that is severely lacking. Far more likely that Wilder and his team thought they'd demonstrate a "new and improved slick" Wilder, and weren't able to adjust because they're all yes men, and used a bad gameplan than that it was because of things Parker was doing. They made zero adjustments, couldn't time him coming in, didn't throw punches down the middle to deter, etc. Parker's strategy, such as it was, was extremely risky, and paid off only because Wilder only threw 200ish punches across 12 rounds. Beating up a guy who isn't punching when punching is his only skill is not an accomplishment, and it's baffling why you think it is. Care to provide some detail, instead of just parroting the inane commentary from the DAZN team?

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      • letsgochump
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        #23
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

        Not really, no. His gameplan could very easily have gone out the window and ended with him getting knocked out had Wilder thrown punches. He was averaging like 3 a round. Dude was on his bike pretending he was a slick outfighter. When have you ever seen Wilder do that? He was trying check hooks. When have you ever seen Wilder do that?

        Parker's gameplan was to be aggressive and lunge in. If Wilder had been doing his usual, and throwing 1-2's down the middle, and jabs down the middle, Parker would have walked right into a punch and been in trouble. Against anyone with an uppercut, he'd have been in trouble. Wilder even nearly caught him with an uppercut, and Wilder isn't really known for those.

        Wilder wasn't throwing at all, even when Parker was doing nothing, and that's because he was looking for a single counter shot. He and his corner made zero adjustments, and didn't even seem to realize they were losing. That comes down to Wilder blowing it, not Parker doing things well. You seem to be in love with the line the commentary team was pushing, but lunging in is rarely a gameplan worthy of praise. Looked like a heavyweight Edgar Berlanga.

        You seem to think Wilder fighting in a completely uncharacteristic way is because Parker was lunging in with shots and then clinching. I think the evidence for that is severely lacking. Far more likely that Wilder and his team thought they'd demonstrate a "new and improved slick" Wilder, and weren't able to adjust because they're all yes men, and used a bad gameplan than that it was because of things Parker was doing. They made zero adjustments, couldn't time him coming in, didn't throw punches down the middle to deter, etc. Parker's strategy, such as it was, was extremely risky, and paid off only because Wilder only threw 200ish punches across 12 rounds. Beating up a guy who isn't punching when punching is his only skill is not an accomplishment, and it's baffling why you think it is. Care to provide some detail, instead of just parroting the inane commentary from the DAZN team?

        Wilder wasn’t throwing because Parker countered him. After the first headshot Wilder was done. He didn’t want that smoke so he thought he’ll do the Helenius treatment on Parker. The problem was Parker isn’t the third slowest guy in the division after Joyce and Makhmudov. Parker was sharp and he did damage before Deontay even thought about throwing that right. Wilder believes his own hype and only in the 12th did he realise he’s outta time for the miracle that has kept him relevant despite losing every round to guys like Washington, Szpilka, Luis Oldtiz. Wilder assumed that the bomb will just come if he waits it out backing off trying to stay safe from Parker’s bombs.

        Wilder is completely useless if you take away the right hand. Parker did just that by hitting Wilder hard and staying at a distance for the rest of the time. Wilder couldn’t throw any punches without getting KO’d and that was the Parker tactic. And it worked bcs Bum Squad only had that one weapon. Always did and always will. The definition of a one trick pony.

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          #24
          Originally posted by pollywog

          No and to prove he's the best NOW...

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          not in the past with a dubious decision over Parker that seemed a lifetime ago.

          AJ was all prepared to supposedly fight Wilder if he won but not the guy who beat him. Thats weak sauce.

          Dude needs to grow a pair and show he still has what it takes to beat the best.

          Parker's win puts the division on notice that the road to a belt and Saudi money runs through him as much as Joshua.

          AJ v Hrgy would be even more of a snoozefest than AJ/Parker all those years ago. AJ/Parker now would be a boxing exhibition of the highest order with fireworks to boot!
          Parker won't dare to be aggressive vs AJ because he knows he will be belast out. He will go on his bike like he did in their previous fight. If he fights AJ the way he fought Wilder he's going to get slept with a devastating uppercut. So, don't get carried away with the Wilder win. Wilder was just a trash and has always been.

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          • Wacked_Out
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            #25
            Hearn: Anthony [Joshua] Put In a Performance That Put The Heavyweight Division On Notice


            ​Yes, he wanted them all to know that Wallin is kind of a potato.

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              #26
              Joshua is still top 5 easily.

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              • Bob
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                #27
                No he didnt,
                I said before the fight Wallin is a can who's famous for cutting Fury but otherwise lost every round. He's slow and an arm puncher with no power who's beaten nobody.

                Just another can or shot old man on Ajs resume.

                The thing is this era is so weak who is there? Usyk Fury aging & tied up. Hrgovic, Sanchez, Zhang (40) Parker could be in his prime now, Dubois may have just manned up.
                So a top 8, who's on the up? Anderson, Wardley who else?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pollywog

                  ...[/B]not in the past with a dubious decision over Parker that seemed a lifetime ago.
                  It was never a dubious decision, just zero fireworks.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by pollywog

                    Parker had the balls to step in with Wilder when most were too scared to mention his name.

                    Parker then beat him up from pillar to post and you dont think that's impressive citing a game plan specifically devised to neutralize Wilder and no one else.

                    Broooo just STFU, double down on that crack pipe and have yourself a very merry Christmas.
                    There's nothing impressive there. Anyone who knows boxing know that Wilder is a very limited fighter. Any boxer can beat a puncher with the right game plans. That is what Parker did. Parker cannot all of a sudden become great fighter by beating Wilder. His options now is to fight Joe Joyce again, or, Dubois.

                    Joshua already beat him.
                    Whyte (that Joshua has beaten) has also beaten him. So, for now, there's no sense in Joshua fighting Parker.

                    Future match ups should be:

                    Wilder-Miller
                    Dubois-Parker; or Parker-Usyk
                    Joshua
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                    • Smash
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                      #30
                      sort of looked a bit like he was fighting a beached whale in there at times, take note all whales out there

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