Wilder just needs to retire. Good career still seems mentally healthy.

[DeeMoney]

yeah but 99 percent of people who lace them up are bums.

To be fair, he's been more successful in boxing than most anyone in the world is in their given career. Like it or not he has had a very good career. Whether we think most people in the world are bums as well.....thats another discussion.

[daggum]

To be fair, he's been more successful in boxing than most anyone in the world is in their given career. Like it or not he has had a very good career. Whether we think most people in the world are bums as well.....thats another discussion.

he artificially extended his career with a long series of bum fights. i give him credit for having a good win over ortiz but ortiz isnt great. i just dont know why people fell for the wilder hype. someone like andy ruiz has had a much better career and no one goes ga-ga over him. parker has had a better career, whyte a better career, joyce a better career, etc...and those kind of guys are 2nd tier level guys. wilder was more like third tier whihc is respectable in its own right but the way they pretended he was 1st tier level turned me and others off when it was clear he wasnt. also the shameless ducking was painful