Just shows again this a weak era of boxing. 80's-90's era 10x better.

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  • Dr. Z
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    #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Fury needs to best usy k and Josh and Zhang and flip now
    The man arguably lost to an 0-0 boxer!

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      #22
      Originally posted by BoxingOutlaw
      Holyfield, Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Bowe blast anybody nowdays.
      The United Staes upper weigh boing is dead at heavyweight cruiser weight, light heavy weight, and maybe even middle weight.

      Just look at who is on top and the ages of the fighters at Box rec

      https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?r%5Bro...Bdivision%5D=H eavyweight&r%5Bcountry%5D=US&r_go=

      The top 10-20 in the 1990s would beat the to 5 2024 USA heavies

      The USA boxing is a thread I may start that will rock the foundation of this forum, as it includes genetics, social factors, dietary eating / nutrition factors, lifestyle, and more ... the USA program and its men are well, sick.

      The sickness will kill or the network TV for boxing here. In two years time I do not know what will be left of USA boxing.

      Anderson our heavyweight " hope " has been arrested with a DUI and gun charge. He might end up boxing for Ohio penal league. I think he'd kill it in the PLG games set to debut in 2024-2025!

      https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...-to-debut-2024
      Last edited by Dr. Z; 12-24-2023, 07:00 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BoxingOutlaw

        You take Bowe in 91-92 nobody now touches him.
        Ok, so now when Wilder got his ass whooped, you came out with this. So, the era sucks because there is no American around.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BoxingOutlaw

          Holyfield was set up somebody sent that to him. You really think he has sent to his on house.
          Holyfield had a heart condition in the 90s. NSAC believed it was due to HGH. Holyfield said it was "too much morphine".

          Morphine is a controlled substance.

          So either (A) he took HGH which is illegal or (B) he abused morphine which is illegal. Take your pick.

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            #25
            its hard to compare era's like that, i mean fury took over from wlad, wlads big bro had a very competitive fight with lewis when he was getting on a bit, they all have their good and bad points, bowe wouldnt even fight lewis, holyfield was most likely juiced his entire heavy career, everything can be nitpicked over, they would have to fight each other but they cant, a lot of times they wont even fight the current top guys

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              #26
              This is my response to the people who criticize Zhang for being slow. All these new hw are slow wtf.

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                #27
                Too many boxing fans are weirdos with this era sh^t. I don't think other sports fans talk every wk about how many yds Joe Montana woulda thrown for if he was QB in 2023 & other goofy sh^t like that.

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                  #28
                  blame the young guys

                  wilder is 38

                  Joshua 34

                  Usyk 36, 37 in a month

                  Fury 35

                  Zhang is 40


                  where are all the young bucks?


                  tyson was shot by early 30s, lewis retired at 37 which was considered old. larry homes was like 38 when he was blasted out by tyson and everyone said he was old. Bowe only lasted a few years before he was done. Holyfield kept going but he was losing to guys like john ruiz by his late 30s.



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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Too many boxing fans are weirdos with this era sh^t. I don't think other sports fans talk every wk about how many yds Joe Montana woulda thrown for if he was QB in 2023 & other goofy sh^t like that.


                    Do football fans ever look for close up shots of their players ******* and debate if they see any signs of puffiness?

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                      #30
                      People need to stop comparing eras. None of that can be proven with any objectivity.

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