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Comments Thread For: Joseph Parker Rocks, Shocks Deontay Wilder For Decision Win, Derails Joshua Fight
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Parker won a deserved win but Wilder just waited for him the whole fight. I think Wilder will be back and improved but he did get exposed a little in this fight too.
I think Zhang Vs Parker would be a great fight. Zhang beat Joyce who Parker lost to and Parker has just beaten Wilder. Would be a top match-upmrbig1
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I was always a Wilder guy but he was exposed against Fury and certainly last night as well. His style was very amateurish but he had dynamite in the right hand. At 38, he looks finished! Props to Parker and his team!
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Props to the guys admitting that Wilder was overrated. I see many people now saying "Parker is just too good". I like Parker, I picked him to win by UD against Wilder weeks ago. That said, Parker ain't Lennox Lewis. He is a good boxer who has lost to several fighters.
Wilder is the most overrated HW fighter of the last decade. He fought atrocious competition to build his resume. He never stepped up his comp, never learned to box, never improved. He threw a hard right and knocked out a bunch of truly awful fighters. When he stepped up to Ortiz, he got rocked and the ref blatantly saved him. Fury beat him three times, twice brutally.
He was shot after Fury, Helenius is terrible and walked into a right hand, trying to be Fury. Last night we all saw the real remains of Wilder. Any good boxer beats the hell out of him now because has has one shot and Fury ruined his reflexes. He is 38 and fought like an old man. He is done. He was never any good.
The only thing better than him retiring and going away with his excuses, paranoid cheating theories and whining bs would be to see them make the AJ fight and for AJ to knock him out cold and end his career and mouth unconscious on the canvas.
Wilder was, is and always will be a bum beating joke.eco1 likes this.
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Holyfield said it best. I was never afraid of Tyson. If you’re not afraid of a guy, it increases your chances of beating him. No one is really afraid of Wilder anymore after the 2 beat downs by Tyson Fury. You can plan to avoid the right hand and win. If Joshua can do that, he would beat Wilder too. But if Joshua catches Wilder like Parker did, it’s lights out.Poopdick likes this.
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Originally posted by FannonOG View PostThe long layoff affected 38 year old Wilder, did not look sharp. Parker looked average nothing special. This had upset written all over it.
Wilder is still a first ballot hall of famer with his 10 defenses.
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Originally posted by Daniel Skillman View Post
I'm sorry, but I just don't see that Parker nullified the right hand. Wilder didn't even attempt to throw it.
Look at Wilder against Fury in the first fight. It was the same damn sequence there too. He didn't commit to the right hand until he saw Fury was in the perfect position to land it; and even then Fury was smart enough to duck into it which lessened the impact of it and why Fury was so successful in the second fight because Wilder hadn't changed it up. Which is what Parker did. Which is why Parker gave Fury the shoutout.
Parker kept moving TOWARDS Wilder when he saw Wilder was about to throw or was mid-throw. If you move forward and dip, you're making Wilder second guess his aim and/or completely miss because as I've said for years, Wilder needs distance - range - to be confident in landing.
So either it's a guy moving backward (Helenius, Fury, Stiverne, Washington, etc.), coming forward in straight line (Szpilka, Breezy, Ortiz, etc.), or just standing there to take the shot (Malik Scott). Anything else and Wilder is ripe for the picking.
Parker did the one thing very few fighters think to do against a power puncher: dip and move forward, which takes away range, smothers the power even if he does land and makes you think the guy is on the attack while evading incoming bombs. It's something Mike Tyson would do at times - he did that against MItch 'Blood' Green most notably.
You'd have to be a crazy good "down puncher" to be able to deal with that, and the only real quality down puncher of the modern era is Terence Crawford.
Wilder used to be decently good at dealing with that, when he fought Arreola. But Arreola was slower than Parker and Wilder no longer fights that way (which he should have against Parker because it would have completely thrown off Parker's strategy).
Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 12-24-2023, 12:06 PM.JakeTheBoxer likes this.
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