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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    #51
    Originally posted by Regge

    Exactly

    I recall an interview Bivol gave after the fight the interviewer asked how was it being In with canelo and Bivol said "it was tough his punches hurt my shoulder is sore"

    see haters will tell you Bivol won "easily" and that Floyd won "12-0 with one hand and one eye shut" the narrative changes every year next it will be be Floyd won 12-0 with some 10-8 rds sprinkled around.

    It's Hate and envy but the truth is both Bivol and Floyd went on record saying "it wasn't easy" FACTS!!! Bivol knows it wasn't easy and was trying to maximize his earnings incase canelo came out in beast mode.
    Bivol said Canelo's punches hurt his arms in the ring interview after the fight. He also said, better my arms than my head. He put his punches upside Canelo's head, while Canelo had to settle for making his arms sore.

    FACTS are that Canelo really barely won a round, regardless of what the judges might have said. FACTS are that Canelo offered the exact same terms for a rematch to the winner of the rematch and refused to budge at all. FACTS are that Bivol cares more about belts than money. That's why he wanted the fight at 168, so he could take Canelo's belts and prove it wasn't because he's a bigger man.

    Back when people were saying fighting at 168 was Canelo's idea, I was saying there's no way Canelo would risk fighting Bivol at 168, because he'd never risk losing everything to a guy who out skilled him already.

    He even offered a catchweight to Canelo and got no response. Asked for a bigger cut because he won the fight and got turned down cold. Bivol won the first fight but Canelo still thinks he gets to dictate the exact same terms? That's a flat out duck. He didn't do everything to make the fight. He quite literally did nothing. No changes. Nothing.

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    • just the facts
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      #52
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Your a gent bivol. Another guy who beat nelo refused to give rematch under any circumstances
      When? Be specific.

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        #53
        Here’s the straight reality. The absolute low ball offer Canelo made to Bivol tells anyone with a brain just how interested Canelo was in a Bivol rematch. He knew Bivol wasn’t gonna accept that insult. Canelo knows what we all know, unless some seriously crooked scorecards are involved (not out of the question), Canelo flat out can’t/won’t/didn’t beat Bivol. Horrible style matchup for Canelo.

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          #54
          Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

          Bivol said Canelo's punches hurt his arms in the ring interview after the fight. He also said, better my arms than my head. He put his punches upside Canelo's head, while Canelo had to settle for making his arms sore.

          FACTS are that Canelo really barely won a round, regardless of what the judges might have said. FACTS are that Canelo offered the exact same terms for a rematch to the winner of the rematch and refused to budge at all. FACTS are that Bivol cares more about belts than money. That's why he wanted the fight at 168, so he could take Canelo's belts and prove it wasn't because he's a bigger man.

          Back when people were saying fighting at 168 was Canelo's idea, I was saying there's no way Canelo would risk fighting Bivol at 168, because he'd never risk losing everything to a guy who out skilled him already.

          He even offered a catchweight to Canelo and got no response. Asked for a bigger cut because he won the fight and got turned down cold. Bivol won the first fight but Canelo still thinks he gets to dictate the exact same terms? That's a flat out duck. He didn't do everything to make the fight. He quite literally did nothing. No changes. Nothing.
          Who passes on an opportunity to avenge a bad loss and handicap their opponent at the same time? Canelo, that’s who. Quack quack.

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            #55
            So Bivol took a year off boxing on purpose?

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              #56
              Originally posted by just the facts

              Who passes on an opportunity to avenge a bad loss and handicap their opponent at the same time? Canelo, that’s who. Quack quack.
              Was a smart duck IMO though. He'd have to pay the judges really well to have a chance, and if he lost anyways, he'd lose all his belts and his leverage to be cash cow. I think losing to Bivol at 168 too would be catastrophic for him. He's in a tough spot here, caught between Bivol/Beterbiev at 175 and the Davids at 168, and he can't run back down to 160 because it's pretty dead. Next year will reveal if he's still "daring to be great." If he fights that hypejob Munguía, for me that's proof positive he's on the slide and cashing out while ducking the dangerous fights.

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                #57
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                So Bivol took a year off boxing on purpose?
                Not on purpose but it worked out that way. He put all his eggs in one basket. He firmly believed that Canelo would have the testicular fortitude for a rematch. He was wrong.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Oregonian
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                  I was expecting this response so let me adjust the names. Why didn’t Canelo run it back with Cotto or Lara or Trout? All were close fights and in fact many believe Canelo got a gift against Lara. And those rematches weren’t meaningless either AND you can’t see the future to say Canelo would have beaten them again “just because he won decisions”. Amiright? LMAO

                  People like you tend to make personal attacks when you can’t defend your bias ness. Go ahead, make up some other lame accusations and taunts.
                  Dude dont let your hate or dislike ness towards the ginger get you off topic. We're are talking about BIVOL NOT WANTING to give Canelo the rematch whether is cause of the weight or the money but some insist is the cinnabon who avoiding it.. did you even read the article?

                  Personally I dont even care if the rematch takes place or not, at the end of the day canelo best weight is 168 and Bivol a full fledge 175 pounder thats where they better perform ,Canelo has to fight benavidez and Bivol has to fight beterbiev so im not being biased at all. Besides, no one attacking here, you quoted me ffs lol! Dont take sht personal dude. Its just Boxing.

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                  • Oregonian
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks

                    Dude dont let your hate or dislike ness towards the ginger get you off topic. We're are talking about BIVOL NOT WANTING to give Canelo the rematch whether is cause of the weight or the money but some insist is the cinnabon who avoiding it.. did you even read the article?

                    Personally I dont even care if the rematch takes place or not, at the end of the day canelo best weight is 168 and Bivol a full fledge 175 pounder thats where they better perform ,Canelo has to fight benavidez and Bivol has to fight beterbiev so im not being biased at all. Besides, no one attacking here, you quoted me ffs lol! Dont take sht personal dude. It’s just Boxing.
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                    I have always been a fan of ginger and see him as an ATG. So you are just making wild assumptions.
                    The one thing we agree on is Canelo has to fight Benavidez but I don’t think he wants that fight. I haven’t called Canelo a DUCKER but we are almost getting there. That fight has to happen next year or it’s a duck on Canelo’s part.
                    I still think he is an ATG even if he ducks Benavidez so I can separate topics.

                    I think most people are inferring to Canelo fighting Benavidez instead of a guy he already lost to. Perhaps Canelo believes he has a much better shot at beating Bivol than Benavidez which does make sense.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Smash
                      just dont understand why he wouldnt take the 175 rematch and payday with canelo, its baffling really, his reasons dont fill u with confidence really either
                      As Bivol says, he has his own way ... He dealt easily with Ginger... He now looks forward (Beterbiev is a MUST DO)... Up to Ginger to know where he stands and to swallow the pill of being a B side for once... Show the money !!!

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