Comments Thread For: Hearn: I Reached Out To Ngannou's Team For Joshua Fight - I Never Heard Back

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Getting out of fights is a more learned and accepted process in mixed martial arts, nobody can deny this fact 'It is just they way it is'.

Tap-Out T-Shirts were apart of this mass conditioning, the glorification of getting out of fights 'Goodness me, hopefully you did no wear one of those T-shirts'.

Likewise the acceptance of getting out of fights is not cultured in boxing, it is not accepted. There is almost a zero tolerance policy 'It is not overlooked, and passed over when a fighter shows any signs of wanting to get out of fight'.

Note: If Nagnnou has encountered all of those situations in mixed martial arts, then why is he not just taking up all of those mega fight opportunities? Ngannou is not taking them up, because the jeopardy in boxing if people are very honest with themselves is much higher 'There is no tapping out in boxing, whatever which way you try to dance around this fact. That is the reality of the game'.

Boxers are held to higher standard of conduct than mixed martial arts fighters 'In regards to not getting out of fights' etc.

A tap out is quitting, same as taking a knee and staying down, quitting on your stool, staying down for the count.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

That’s because you aren’t trying to break or dislocate etc joints or connective tissues etc in boxing . Tapping is a necessary for most and would be dangerous without any form of communication from a competitor.

I’ve been in submissions most deem impossible to get out ( arm break positions/try getting out of a straight arm bar from mount I bet you tap in seconds or break your arm bc you got to spin a specific way and have great arm strength to do it ) while Ive never been submitted ( and that’s going back to1993 to be exact ) in training or competition I’ve got out of holds like that and had to have at least 2 months getting my arm function back to normal I’ve also completely tore a pec muscle in a reverse arm bar from mount which is worse and continued to fend off my opponent with one arm where it was just pure grappling so it was basically pointless to continue at that point which required 6 months of slow rehab bc I didn’t tap like an idiot. .


The point is it would be idiotic not to tap in MMA it has nothing to do with glorifying anything , in boxing you can see if someone quits , in MMA your not really giving a choice if your getting choked or having a limp hyper extended or an ankle lock ready to break or dislocate those little bones and rip those ligaments.


I don’t know why you guys insist comparing these sports ? If front head lock chokes were allowed in boxing in a clinch you don’t think you’d be seeing mostly tap outs ? Of course you would then what would happen?

They’d move on to their next fight that’s what would happen like MMA guys do .lol

Yeah this. A snapped elbow or leg bone is far different than taking big shots.

Both are quitting, but boxers can give up easier if they just realize they can't win. But in some situations, MMA guys have to submit.

Of course, I'm guessing in MMA, a guy could tell the ref he is done as well, right? Never seen it. Interesting to think about, but I suppose an MMA guy could try to tell the ref he wants to quit and catch a flying knee to the face.

[juggernaut666]

Yeah this. A snapped elbow or leg bone is far different than taking big shots.

Both are quitting, but boxers can give up easier if they just realize they can't win. But in some situations, MMA guys have to submit.

Of course, I'm guessing in MMA, a guy could tell the ref he is done as well, right? Never seen it. Interesting to think about, but I suppose an MMA guy could try to tell the ref he wants to quit and catch a flying knee to the face.

Verbal forfeits happen . It’s easier to tap it’s more recognizable then trying to communicate with a mouth piece in , the ref will jump in faster if you tap instead of having to listen to a fighter in a loud arena etc . Fighters tap more if they feel they are going out or about to injure something , you can take knockouts in boxing or just retire on the corner or towel thrown in but why would you want to potentially break something or be choked out unconscious bc you don’t want to tap ?

It only takes seconds to apply a choke hold and have someone out , the average person is going to tap as an involuntarily movement . This isn’t quitting it’s a survival instinct when oxygen is cut off in a regulated rules environment, not so much in a street fight once you got a hold locked up on someone they’re F”ed and out like a like where they don’t have a referee to pull you off .

[TMLT87]

Another thing is with MMA you can be put in positions where you can no longer really defend yourself or fight back. In boxing as long as you're conscious you can at least put your hands up or to some extent even take a knee to buy yourself time. In MMA you can be pinned to the ground, arms/legs locked up, 90% of your movement options taken away but the other guy is still able to attack you.

Also, while getting punched in the face repeatedly is obviously terrible for your health, it doesnt hurt like being caught in a submission. Theres also never a point where you think "****, if I dont quit now the next punch will be the one that causes long term damage". You know you're basically imminently ****ed when you're being restrained on the ground and someone starts bending your arm the wrong way to the point where somethings about to go pop.