Canelo 'I'm the King, I do whatever i want'

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  • Smash
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    #81
    whats benny's ring weight, is he one of these hollow legged guys? is there any 'secret' spreadsheets available lol

    this info is important in assessing matchups i think, considering the variations we see all the time, not saying its an excuse to duck or anything, if u make weight u are good to go but if i was a potential opponent of some guy i would like this info

    plus, monsters are monsters until they are beaten, guys look great until they get their ass kicked and they are not so hot

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    • Oracle01
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      #82
      I think he has said he usually 190 in the ring. Canelo would at least in the 180s himself. He was 165 in the ring vs Floyd.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Oracle01

        Bivol was piecing up Canelo on the ropes, Benavidez would do it much worse. Canelo will be landing too many punches? They will be bouncing off Davids high guard and he will return twice as many back to Canelo including to the body. David has a better inside game with his great upper cuts and body shots, he will just over whelm a short low output fighter than relies on 1 shot at a time.

        The clown you responded to classified GGG with Lara, and Floyd lol. Benavidez is like GGG 2.0, similar style but much bigger faster and powerful with a more versatile offense, which is why he is a nightmare for Canelo and destroys him. Canelo just does not have the gas tank to compete with a machine like Benavidez and it seems the fan boys like you keep ignoring that. Once Canelo starts slowing down he will become target practice.
        Golovkin is not stylistically the same kind of fight as Lara, Bivol, Mayweather Junior 'Yes I know that'.

        I don't think Benavidez inside game is better than Alvarez, 'I don't think, just throwing punches in bunches makes your inside game superior'.

        Alvarez is more accurate, efficient and creative with his punches with his inside game 'I personally just think, he will be landing the better punches vs Benavidez'.

        Alvarez's endurance is not super great, it is satisfactory. Alvarez won't be chasing the fight vs Benavidez, it is in that type of situation were his endurance is lacking i.e When he has to search and chase a fight. Benavidez will bring the fight to Alvarez, and this will play right into Alvarez best attributes.

        Benavidez in order to win the fight, will have to hit Alvarez with more power than he has ever experienced consistently 'Without being ****** up himself'.

        I don't think Benavidez has shown the power or defense to achieve those two objectives.

        Note: Golovkin Skill for skill is a better fighter than Benavidez. I think Benavidez is overrated mate, he is doing well at 168 pounds mainly because 'For now he is getting way with weight draining himself big time, to be the big man on fight night. This may continue to work out for him, at least for awhile. But at some point it is going to back fire that kind of training lifestyle'.

        Benavidez is doing what Toney Bellew used to do at 175 pounds 'Benavidez has not shown the overall talent level and ability of Alvarez'.

        If Alvarez is in top condition, I think he wins the fight vs Benavidez 'It is a Hoplkins vs Pavlik type situation, the fight to the general public and backers of Benavidez looks a certain way. But to people who understand how both styles will potentially look vs one another? This fight is straight up Alvarez's street mate'.

        Yes it is good fight and match up, there does seem to be a good story and theme with the fight etc.

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          #84
          Canelo fights in spurts, and a very slow pace. Most of his opponents let him do that. Benavidez will make him fight for the entire round, which Canelo is not capable of doing. You still don't understand that. He will be gassed out so fast. Even 40 year old GGG finished stronger than Canelo and he just showed up for a cheque.

          Canelos offense is very basic these days just single telegraphed punches, that will not be a problem for Benavidez to handle at all. And if Canelo can't keep him off its game over, and he won't be able to. Canelo has never faced a offensive fighter as good as Benavidez. He is much bigger , faster than GGG and hits harder, plus throws far more combinations. Mentioning Benavidez with Bellew just shows how clueless you are. David is special.

          Go look at combubox. David is number 1 in accuracy in the whole sport. And his plus minus is top 5, which means he actually has very good underrated defence. Canelo was getting pieced up by John Ryder lol.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Oracle01

            Except that Canelo fights nothing like Bivol and Benavidez is a level above slow ass Zurdo. Nice comparison lol.


            ramirez and benavidez are the same pressure fighter. if ramirez hadn't lost to bivol and was still undefeated like benavidez, y'all would say they are the same.

            they will be the same again after canelo vs benavidez.

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              #86
              Originally posted by hhh1200



              ramirez and benavidez are the same pressure fighter. if ramirez hadn't lost to bivol and was still undefeated like benavidez, y'all would say they are the same.

              they will be the same again after canelo vs benavidez.
              You think they have the same skills and attributes? I said Zurdo was trash before he lost to Bivol. Nice try. He looked like crap in the proceeding fights, , rocked by journeymen. He is slow and basic, nothing like Benavidez. GG

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                #87
                Originally posted by Oracle01

                You think they have the same skills and attributes? I said Zurdo was trash before he lost to Bivol. Nice try. He looked like crap in the proceeding fights, , rocked by journeymen. He is slow and basic, nothing like Benavidez. GG
                he does the same thing benavidez does. He gets outboxed and uses his size to go downhill on guys, nothing special, no special effects. when canelo or a guy like Morrell stops that momentum and he has to think his way out of a fight, oh brother.

                Garvil is the closet he has fought to a boxer puncher like canelo and morrell and this guy went 22 rounds with him.



                high level of delusion if people think morrell is on this level. won't even add in canelo
                Last edited by hhh1200; 12-17-2023, 04:25 AM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by just the facts

                  Canelo has never had a problem with slow, flat footed fighters. It’s the guys with good movement (Lara, GGG, Floyd, Bivol) that give him fits.
                  So, I guess we'll see that fight soon, right?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by hhh1200

                    he does the same thing benavidez does. He gets outboxed and uses his size to go downhill on guys, nothing special, no special effects. when canelo or a guy like Morrell stops that momentum and he has to think his way out of a fight, oh brother.

                    Garvil is the closet he has fought to a boxer puncher like canelo and morrell and this guy went 22 rounds with him.



                    high level of delusion if people think morrell is on this level. won't even add in canelo
                    You listed a fight which was close when David was 20 and then shut him out in the rematch? Benavidez has no special fx? He is probably the best combination puncher in the sport, with speed, range and power, but no special fx? lmao..Stop talking about boxing if you think he is comparable to Zurdo.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                      So, I guess we'll see that fight soon, right?
                      Sure hope so. While I favor Canelo, Benevides has earned his shot.

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