Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Comments Thread For: Rafael Espinoza Trades Knockdowns With Robeisy Ramirez, Takes Majority Decision To Win WBO Title

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by b Murphington View Post

    You’re right on the money with your assessment.

    I’ll add to it. Absorbing shots takes energy. So the high volume from Espinoza definitely plays a big role in zapping Ramirez’s strength down the stretch.

    It takes a lot to overcome a boxer who’s a full head taller than you.

    If you got a halfway decent boxer who’s got a significant height and reach advantage, you’re in for a long night. You need to be in tip top condition and you need HIGH VOLUME to overcome the physical disadvantages. And you gotta **** the body!

    Ramirez failed in all of those departments.

    All that said, it was a hell of a fight and I’d be down for a rematch.
    Going into the fight I wondered how much Espinoza’s considerable height advantage would mean. I knew it could pose a problem, provided he was legit. Although his record looked good on paper, we’ve seen these types whither against world class opposition. Well, we all got to see that the Mexican is indeed legit. I can’t find fault with his performance. He appears a little lightfisted, but that’s about it.

    I agree wholeheartedly that Ramirez needed to attack the body. But I wonder about his ability to do that. That high guard I keep harping about is the sign of a fighter who’s not very good at infighting. Robeisy would throw a punch or two, put his hands up, let Espinoza throw five, six, seven punches, then repeat. Hard to win fights that way, especially against a much taller and well-conditioned man.
    Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 12-11-2023, 03:42 PM.

    Comment


    • Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

      That’s the key, the body. Easier said than done, but not imposible. That weight class got a whole lot more interesting now specially if monster inoue comes up soon.
      You said it: “Easier said than done.” I don’t want to take anything at all away from Espinoza. It’s not necessarily Ramirez’s shortcomings that lost it, but also Divino’s qualities that won the fight. It could be that Espinoza has Robeisy’s number, and a rematch will result in the same outcome. I would like to see them run it back and see for sure. These two put on a great show. It’s what the fans want.
      Last edited by CubanGuyNYC; 12-11-2023, 03:47 PM.
      Regge Regge likes this.

      Comment


      • Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

        That’s the key, the body. Easier said than done, but not imposible. That weight class got a whole lot more interesting now specially if monster inoue comes up soon.
        I love boxers who go to the body hard. Navarrete is another one who’s real big on going to the body.

        Comment


        • Did anyone catch that fall in either rd 6 or 7 not sure but Espinoza looked like he landed an uppercut either to the body or head and Robeisy went down it was ruled a slip but espn never showed a replay.

          Comment


          • Originally posted by Regge View Post
            Did anyone catch that fall in either rd 6 or 7 not sure but Espinoza looked like he landed an uppercut either to the body or head and Robeisy went down it was ruled a slip but espn never showed a replay.
            I saw it. Wasn’t sure if it was a slip or a knockdown, but the ref was quick about it and no one made a stink. No replay to watch, so…

            Comment


            • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

              I saw it. Wasn’t sure if it was a slip or a knockdown, but the ref was quick about it and no one made a stink. No replay to watch, so…
              Yea Robeisy didn't seem hurt at all but don't know why they didn't show the replay when they usually do.

              Comment


              • Originally posted by Regge View Post

                I think Espinoza might prove to be the best because really thinking about it had he not gotten caught playing with his stance in the 5th who knows if that punch would have ever came for Ramirez. Espinoza wasn't just beating up Ramirez he was outclassing him which is surprising given Robeisys Olympic pedigree. It could have been a complete dominant performance. I think Lopez is hid toughest test but he beats the rest imo.
                i think exactly the same, ive even talked to him about it, venado is akward and heavy handed he could be a problem, also figueroa with his horrible wrestiling style

                but honestly if a rematch happens im 90% convinced Rafa will F up robeisy even worse

                I personally know Espinoza really really good and let me tell you this wasnt his best camp, and the trip to miami was a real problem too

                He is fo real the new player in fw and super fw

                Comment


                • Wanna hear something crazy too Espinoza did only 11 amateur foghts here in Guadalajara and won em all thats crazy considering Robeisy did what at least 200? ( boxrec says 126-23 but they always miss more than a few )

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

                    Going into the fight I wondered how much Espinoza’s considerable height advantage would mean. I knew it could pose a problem, provided he was legit. Although his record looked good on paper, we’ve seen these types whither against world class opposition. Well, we all got to see that the Mexican is indeed legit. I can’t find fault with his performance. He appears a little lightfisted, but that’s about it.

                    I agree wholeheartedly that Ramirez needed to attack the body. But I wonder about his ability to do that. That high guard I keep harping about is the sign of a fighter who’s not very good at infighting. Robeisy would throw a punch or two, put his hands up, let Espinoza throw five, six, seven punches, then repeat. Hard to win fights that way, especially against a much taller and well-conditioned man.
                    i assure you that he isnt light fisted robeisey is as tough as they come and still went down

                    Espinoza left hook to the body has been responsible for most of his Kos

                    CubanGuyNYC CubanGuyNYC Regge Regge like this.

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by ..David.. View Post
                      Wanna hear something crazy too Espinoza did only 11 amateur foghts here in Guadalajara and won em all thats crazy considering Robeisy did what at least 200? ( boxrec says 126-23 but they always miss more than a few )
                      Sometimes you have to wonder if that many many Amateur fights is too much.
                      ..David.. ..David.. likes this.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP