Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Slams Anthony Joshua, Accuses Him of Deceiving Public

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  • daggum
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    #41
    Originally posted by boxing IQ

    Ortiz - he was signed with Hearn and still didn't get the fight. Hearn's PED cover-ups are no secret. The fight never happened because he was dangerous for Joshua.

    Fury I - facts. Refs have stopped fights for less, mind you a guy sprawled out on his back staring at the sky.

    Fury II - good big guy beats a good small guy. Fury drained Wilder so much from this that the WBC had to create a whole new division because of it. Fury moved the hair over on his gloves to expose his knuckles. Can literally see his knuckles through the green glove.

    Fury III - not sure how you came up with those numbers because only Fury got the long count, as noted in real time by everyone from Andre Ward to Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier, etc.

    Quit the revisionist history. It weakens your position.
    joshua became champ april 2016, signed to figth wlad in november of 2016 for a fight in april of 2017, oritz left hearn in march of 2017. didnt really give himself much of a chance to land the fight now did he? you could just as easily say he left hearn to duck joshua and target the weaker wilder depending on your agenda. also later ortiz became mandatory to joshua but got busted for ped's how is that joshua ducking? then even after that joshua offered him 7 million dollars in 2019 and ortiz turned it down how is that joshua ducking? im not seeing any real evidence that joshua didnt want the fight given the facts. the biggest strike against that claim is that he was offered the fight and a huge payday and turned it down. same way wilder was offered 100 million dollars and turned it down. if you dont want to fight someone you dont make them crazy high offers that no reasonable person would turn down.
    Last edited by daggum; 12-07-2023, 02:05 PM.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #42
      Originally posted by _Rexy_

      He has less than 40 amateur fights, and if the Olympics weren’t in England he’d have lost two of those fights too.

      He has as much amateur pedigree as I do

      and do you mean two MORE men? Because he was already whipped by Usyk and Andy

      Bunch of damn kids in here or fangirls with crushes.
      Yes, name another heavy weight (his age group) with a true amateur pedigree (outside of Usyk) equal to AJ and who won GOLD? Its not Wilder, Fury or Andy.
      Usyk is the ONLY guy that surpasses the accomplishments of AJ CURRENTLY but were getting off track. Bet you cant remember what this thread is about kid.

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      • pollywog
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        #43
        Windmill be like the kid desperately trying to attract the cute girls attention by calling her names and running away. Otherwise he'd be this weird kid constantly ogling her.

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        • Monty Fisto
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          #44
          The Hearn haters claim AJ is his golden goose on the way out. The AJ haters claim Hearn manufactured his popularity and the venues didn't really sell out.

          We can debate the boxing ability, but there's no doubting AJ could sell tickets in large numbers to the general public at the height of his popularity.

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          • Smash
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            #45
            jeez would the 2 of these just get in the ring and sort it out, someone is absolutely terrified of the other one

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            • thack
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              #46
              Originally posted by Smash
              jeez would the 2 of these just get in the ring and sort it out, someone is absolutely terrified of the other one
              I think Hearn is petrified of Wilder , I'd say Joshua is daft enough to take the fight.

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              • Roberto Vasquez
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                #47
                Wilder fights less top-10 guys than AJ and AJ is 5 years behind Wilder in his career. People in glass-houses.... Wilder barely even fights anymore. Where has he been??

                Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                I don’t think anyone can debate that AJ was built up by Hearn into something that he wasn’t. Hearn was promoting him as a great and already listed him as one of the top 10 heavyweights in the history of the sport. He had him ranked above guys like Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Marciano, and many others ,which we all know is laughable.
                Hearn is his promoter. That is literally his job lol

                Even so I would say Hearn has is more measured that most. He said AJ could lose to Wilder, said the same thing before Usyk. He also ranks AJ in the top 3 current heavyweights... which is fair

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                • Jab jab boom
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                  Wilder fights less top-10 guys than AJ and AJ is 5 years behind Wilder in his career. People in glass-houses.... Wilder barely even fights anymore. Where has he been??



                  Hearn is his promoter. That is literally his job lol

                  Even so I would say Hearn has is more measured that most. He said AJ could lose to Wilder, said the same thing before Usyk. He also ranks AJ in the top 3 current heavyweights... which is fair
                  A top 10 hw ever though? That’s beyond promoting. That’s just promoting bullshyt

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                  • joe strong
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by El_Mero
                    I was living in Vegas from Dec '14- Dec '16, and for this bumpkin buffoon to talk about faking ticket sales is hilarious! Pbc literally giving out free tickets for their fights. I scooped many and so did co-workers and others I knew. Hell, I got free tix for Wilder vs Stiverne 1. The envy is real with Wilder. It's almost kinda sick how his jealousy reeks. And to say AJ was made but he wasn't is hypocritical af. Wilder was fed cans for nearly 40 fights b4 going life n death with the Cuban grandpa. Even now he's being matched with Parker when he could've unified with him when it actually meant something, but he turned it down, just like he did vs Wlad.

                    I'm not big on AJ either but in his 16th fight vs Martin, who Wilder could've easily unified with, he won his first title. And he unified vs Parker 5, almost 6 years ago lmfao. Wilder fought for his 1st title in 32 or 33rd fight ffs.

                    Both AJ and Wilder came to boxing late. Wilder has 45 fight while AJ has 29. So who again was spoon fed chumps?
                    Wilder was not a draw back then at all. Too be fair to Wilder both Martin & Parker declined to fight him for damn good reasons… $$$$$

                    Martin got 8.5 million US & Parker got like 12 million. What were they getting paid to fight Wilder when as you said tickets were being given away. It would have been peanuts. There is a reason everyone is calling out Joshua. He is still the top HW cash cow. Fury is too but Joshua was the biggest draw for years.

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                    • _Rexy_
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66


                      Bunch of damn kids in here or fangirls with crushes.
                      Yes, name another heavy weight (his age group) with a true amateur pedigree (outside of Usyk) equal to AJ and who won GOLD? Its not Wilder, Fury or Andy.
                      Usyk is the ONLY guy that surpasses the accomplishments of AJ CURRENTLY but were getting off track. Bet you cant remember what this thread is about kid.
                      So we’ve gone from “AJ has an amateur pedigree” to “name a heavyweight the same age other than Usyk with more amateur fights?” okay. Zhang. Not really difficult. Luis Ortiz is another. So is Heleinus and Povetkin. Want me to keep going? Joe Joyce, Filip Hrgovic, Arslambek Makmudov

                      cong**** on the corrupt gift gold medal tho. Him and Yoka’s wins were such robberies it almost list boxing as an Olympic sport. Imagine bragging about that

                      dat prestige, dat pedigree

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