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  • #11
    Originally posted by richardt View Post
    Since some judges prefer aggression and some prefer movement - I'm expecting the classic majority decision or split decision or draw based on judges being split on what they prefer.
    I prefer punches more than aggression and movement. I would hope the judges prefer punches too.

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    • #12
      I'm siding with Bam Rodriguez and I'm also rooting for him. But I want to review a couple Sunny fights before I really get an idea how this fight will go. I will say that I want Bam to go back to fighting as he had when he fought Rungvisai and not the last guy. I think he's making a mistake.

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      • #13
        Anything over 18 feet and Sunny has a runner's chance. I look for him to get that advantage, American's swoon at an English accent. I've seen Sunny and he isn't there. That is, Bam is going to swing and miss if Sunny has his way. He's a slippery slickster.

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        • #14
          I usually enjoy technical boxers and not just a KO only person, but given the sheer boredom the last major "technical" boxer's title match I am royally hoping for a Bam KO.

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          • #15
            Nice to see Junaid Bostan & the McGrail boys on the undercard although I was hoping to see Dalton Smith make his US debut.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by 57Blues View Post

              i must remember Sunny wrong bc i watched him fight and yea he is not a power puncher but he did not run around like a chicken Schittt he just moved and slid and jabbed and kept correct distance like i siad i musta remember him wrong or got him confused with someone else in the ring...................
              I'm not talking about other fights though

              This will be major heat and without the power to stop bam in his tracks what other option does he have but to run and survive ?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

                I'm not talking about other fights though

                This will be major heat and without the power to stop bam in his tracks what other option does he have but to run and survive ?
                i am not saying you are right and i am not saying you are wrong --- just thought back to a few fights of Sunny's he is more fluid then flighty more elusive then affraid in the the ring. This should be a fight that is about the two sides of the boxing coin, that is can a more pure boxer with not much power to speak of have developed his talents to the point of being effective -- as in hit and score and not get hit or hurt from your guy. That is what this fight should tell me as it develops is what i am looking to it for. Rod has to stay focused and true to his skills not get agitated by the guy that wont stay in front of him but can be a real Gnat inside the ring. There are fighters in the past who have tried to act in the ring that it was skills to be ellusive all night but never displayed any real talent. Is that Sunny Boy ? There used to be another Sonny Boy (Williamson) Blues harp player had lots a hits one was "Help Me" you got to help me cant do it all by myself. Rod will have to help out a iittle by getting agitated in the ring frustrated and get out of his game. But it could happen we will see or maybe not......Depends on where the fight is being aired at what channel n all that..............
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post

                  I prefer punches more than aggression and movement. I would hope the judges prefer punches too.
                  Boxing is never that simple, nor the generalization. Judges have many times failed to score body punches, counted missed punches, counted ineffective aggression simply because a fighter was moving forward, scored punches for a fighter just because he was showboating or looking slick with movement - it is what a judge favors on who he or she thinks is scoring and winning, not to mention the effect of the punches. There is no pure science to scoring fights.
                  Last edited by richardt; 12-07-2023, 01:17 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by richardt View Post

                    Boxing is never that simple, nor the generalization. Judges have many times failed to score body punches, counted missed punches, counted ineffective aggression simply because a fighter was moving forward, scored punches for a fighter just because he was showboating or looking slick with movement - it is what a judge favors on who he or she thinks is scoring and winning, not to mention the effect of the punches. There is no pure science to scoring fights.
                    Actually it is that simple. This is why it’s called “boxing.” You didn’t even mention punches initially. I’m not even sure what you’re responding to here. Judges are supposed to count body punches. Effective aggression means you’re landing punches by being aggressive, etc.

                    I think you should be more concerned by punches and then everything else should then follow. Like I said, this is “boxing” and you didn’t even mention punches.

                    Sounds as if you’re giving examples of judges that don’t exist. I’ve never heard of a judge giving credit for punches because a man was showboating. If that’s true, then he or she should definitely not be judging.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post

                      Actually it is that simple. This is why its called boxing. You didnt even mention punches initially. Im not even sure what youre responding to here. Judges are supposed to count body punches. Effective aggression means youre landing punches by being aggressive, etc.

                      I think you should be more concerned by punches and then everything else should then follow. Like I said, this is boxing and you didnt even mention punches.

                      Sounds as if youre giving examples of judges that dont exist. Ive never heard of a judge giving credit for punches because a man was showboating. If thats true, then he or she should definitely not be judging.
                      You still don't get it. Only a simpleton would say "I hope the judges prefer punches too". There is a reason why we have controversial decisions and why it is a fact that judges prefer certain styles and score fights differently. It would be naive to think otherwise. Everyone has seen judges give rounds to a guy who was applying ineffective aggression just because he was coming forward - just as a boxer who won a round by showboating and giving the appearance of winning a round while clearly landing less effective and less punches than the opponent. Anyone who has followed boxing for years has heard commentators comment on what the judges may prefer such as aggression vs movement and countering. Everyone knows this! That is why it is NOT "that simple" as you claim - you should know this by now unless you are a newbie. There is no perfect science to scoring fights, there are guidelines/rules that are skewed by viewing angles, experience, bias, preferences, etc.
                      Last edited by richardt; 12-07-2023, 08:56 PM.

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