IF Jeff Lacy had beaten Calzaghe...

[starjammer]

It would depend on the timetable. If it took him another couple years to meet Kessler, then waited until Jones (who was already done) and Hopkins were in their 40s, he'd be served an even bigger heap of ****. It's not as if he'd have some travel overseas excuse, or my promoter is too kooky to make fights reason, so fans would ream him if he went at it that way.

That's a good point. It would depend how quickly he did it. Kessler only really became a nagging problem for Joe around the time Calzaghe fought Bika. Kessler beat Beyer that same night and settled the little problem between them two. That's when Kessler really became the stand out opponent for a unification match.

Calzaghe faced him one year later, fighting Manfredo before that. So let's assume Jeff follows the exact same time-line.

I can imagine if Kessler came to the U.S and Jeff beat him it would be considered a great victory, especially to become Undisputed Champ.

[daggum]

if lacy had a....

iffy victory over bika where he had to hold and cheat the whole fight to stop the stronger more accurate bika from beating him up.

fixed fight against manfredo where he didn't even hit him and the ref stopped it after a flurry of slaps hit his gloves.

good win over kessler who was the second best at that time but is a very stiff fighter as we will find out in the tournament

gift decision over 43 year old hopkins after being made to look like an amateur and all around crappy boxer with no accuracy.

win over a roy jones jr who just got shot out of a circus cannon

not so impressive when you break it down.

[starjammer]

if lacy had a....

iffy victory over bika where he had to hold and cheat the whole fight to stop the stronger more accurate bika from beating him up.

fixed fight against manfredo where he didn't even hit him and the ref stopped it after a flurry of slaps hit his gloves.

good win over kessler who was the second best at that time but is a very stiff fighter as we will find out in the tournament

gift decision over 43 year old hopkins after being made to look like an amateur and all around crappy boxer with no accuracy.

win over a roy jones jr who just got shot out of a circus cannon

not so impressive when you break it down.

Daggum, first off, I disagree completley with your assessment of the Bika fight. It was a clear, clear win for Joe...

I agree with you on the Manfredo fight. That fight was a joke, and the stoppage was just bull****. A disgrace.

You may end up being right about Kessler, but I put more stock in him.

[Guest]

Daggum, first off, I disagree completley with your assessment of the Bika fight. It was a clear, clear win for Joe...

I agree with you on the Manfredo fight. That fight was a joke, and the stoppage was just bull****. A disgrace.

You may end up being right about Kessler, but I put more stock in him.

Good post, jammer.

Who you got, Sexton or Rogan?

[Spray_resistant]

If he beat all of those fighters he would be the one that half of the threads on the board are always about receiving either too much love from his fanboys or too much hate from his haters......but he didn't do all that and even at his best could only beat Manfredo out of any of those fighters.

[starjammer]

Good post, jammer.

Who you got, Sexton or Rogan?

Well I thought Sexton was outboxing him easy, until he got caught. Thought Rogan should have won the first fight. As for the rematch, I'm wondering if Rogan can get to Sexton again mid-late like last time. Sexton is more skilled and could outbox him and mess up his face again. Or will Rogan do what he does best, and put too much pressure on??

I really don't know for sure...but I'm gonna say Sexton. Hope to be wrong.

If he beat all of those fighters he would be the one that half of the threads on the board are always about receiving either too much love from his fanboys or too much hate from his haters......but he didn't do all that and even at his best could only beat Manfredo out of any of those fighters.

lol to be honest you just reminded me that Lacy fought Manfredo. That's how memorable that fight was...

[BUSINESSMAN]

exactly as calzaghe is; even slightly lower so legacy-wise, because of less defenses and he wouldn't get credit for sd over hopkins as he would be a young heavy favourite, and would be laughed at for fighting the shell of roy. nontheless if he was still active prolly top 3 - 5 p4p or so.what's the point of this thread milk eaters?damn that's just dumb.
btw lacy is a joke.

[Freddy Krueger]

This is not a bait thread.

But if Jeff Lacy had beaten Calzaghe...

And then had the following victories...

*Supermiddleweight*

Bika UD12
Manfredo TKO3
Kessler UD12 (Becomes Undisputed 168lb Champ)

*Light-Heavyweight*

Hopkins SD12
Jones UD12

And is currently undefeated.

How would you rank him as a fighter?

He would be considered an Atg... Americans are jokes, and they're ignorant as hell.

[Joe2608]

He would be ATG Super Middleweight. If Calzaghe was American it would be so much different.

[Chuckguy]

He would be ranked exactly where Calz is right now the only diff would be that he would only be 30 something right? and he could make even more noise
too bad he was just a hype job