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  • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
    Since when compu box dictates who wins the fights. Is not how many connects is how you are connecting those blows. Some jabbers will kill you with their jab all nite while getting out connected on the power punches department and still win. Its good more or less to guide yourself with it but it doesn't tell the whole fight
    I assume you're talking to me....

    the most important criteria for scoring a fight is clean effective punching...

    by compubox stats, cotto landed many more jabs, but mosley landed many more power punches....

    sure, cotto jab is hard and mosley's jab was a flickering range finder... BUT surely mosley's power punches are much much stronger than cotto's jabs.

    therefore according to compubox stats, mosley landed the most power punches, and if you take seriously the most important scoring criteria for scoring a fight (clean effective punching)... then you must score the fight in favor of mosley.

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    • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      I assume you're talking to me....

      the most important criteria for scoring a fight is clean effective punching...

      by compubox stats, cotto landed many more jabs, but mosley landed many more power punches....

      sure, cotto jab is hard and mosley's jab was a flickering range finder... BUT surely mosley's power punches are much much stronger than cotto's jabs.

      therefore according to compubox stats, mosley landed the most power punches, and if you take seriously the most important scoring criteria for scoring a fight (clean effective punching)... then you must score the fight in favor of mosley.
      Defense, Ring Generalship and effective agression are also essential factors when scoring rounds.
      How did you score Cotto v Mosley?

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      • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        I assume you're talking to me....

        the most important criteria for scoring a fight is clean effective punching...

        by compubox stats, cotto landed many more jabs, but mosley landed many more power punches....

        sure, cotto jab is hard and mosley's jab was a flickering range finder... BUT surely mosley's power punches are much much stronger than cotto's jabs.

        therefore according to compubox stats, mosley landed the most power punches, and if you take seriously the most important scoring criteria for scoring a fight (clean effective punching)... then you must score the fight in favor of mosley.
        Also, that logic is flawed, because Cotto landed more total punches, even if Mosley landed more overall. The dispersion of punches landed per round is more important when scoring rounds than the total.

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        • And the thing that kills me is that Arum said not too long ago that he
          will try to start negotiating with Mayweather for a fight with Manny
          for like March and now he is saying that Floyd should fight Mosley?
          People attack Floyd for being full of $H!t and contradicting himself
          a lot but look at Arum and Mosley? They have been saying all different
          things in the media and back sliding on them in the next interview.
          I think forreal that the pressure is on Floyd to lose, that's what many
          want to see but I don't think it's going to happen at this point.
          Mosley is a very good fighter but I think he has seen his last days
          and that's why he was so eager to get a fight with Floyd and Manny
          for big $ because he doesn't have too many spectacular wins like the
          one he got against Margarito AND if he fights a decent skilled fighter
          that can counter his technical game then there is a chance he can
          lose and never get a big $ fight with either of the two so of course
          he went at the two biggest in the sport. Mosley could of had like
          3 fights by now but instead he wasted a whole year seeking fights
          with guys that didn't want to fight him? Mosley is supposed to be
          the man to beat and I'm sure if he had two more spectacular wins
          like Margarito he would have been that man.
          Last edited by GRUSTLER; 10-08-2009, 08:44 PM. Reason: Correct name from Manny to Mosley.

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          • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
            Since when compu box dictates who wins the fights. Is not how many connects is how you are connecting those blows. Some jabbers will kill you with their jab all nite while getting out connected on the power punches department and still win. Its good more or less to guide yourself with it but it doesn't tell the whole fight
            Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
            Defense, Ring Generalship and effective agression are also essential factors when scoring rounds.
            no, they are not essential factors...

            THE MOST IMPORTANT IS CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING... you only go to ring generalship and efffective agggression, in absence of clean effective punching

            How did you score Cotto v Mosley?
            I alway though mosley either won or deserved a draw, but with the analysis of compubox stats, its obvious that mosley won, no if ands or buts

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            • Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
              Also, that logic is flawed, because Cotto landed more total punches, even if Mosley landed more overall. The dispersion of punches landed per round is more important when scoring rounds than the total.
              cotto landed more jabs that's it... but mosley was landing ****in bombs on cotto (I guess thats why cotto started running)...

              don't tell me a jab > a power punch.... if you really believe that just quit watching boxing right now.

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              • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                I assume you're talking to me....

                the most important criteria for scoring a fight is clean effective punching...

                by compubox stats, cotto landed many more jabs, but mosley landed many more power punches....

                sure, cotto jab is hard and mosley's jab was a flickering range finder... BUT surely mosley's power punches are much much stronger than cotto's jabs.

                therefore according to compubox stats, mosley landed the most power punches, and if you take seriously the most important scoring criteria for scoring a fight (clean effective punching)... then you must score the fight in favor of mosley.
                That was for who ever said that Castillo beat Floyd int the first fight. I learned not to answer any of your responses. You think that you opinion and reasoning is the only logic and also you are very biased when you like or dislike a fighter. There is nothing that I can write to you cause you don't respect other people's opinion. We can debate and I'll respect your opinion, but you can't do the same and sometime get right down offensive

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                • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  no, they are not essential factors...

                  THE MOST IMPORTANT IS CLEAN EFFECTIVE PUNCHING... you only go to ring generalship and efffective agggression, in absence of clean effective punching


                  I alway though mosley either won or deserved a draw, but with the analysis of compubox stats, its obvious that mosley won, no if ands or buts
                  Completly and totally wrong.
                  Fights are to be scored on four categories, Ring generalship, Effective Agression, Defense and a focus on clean effective punching.
                  They are all to be valued almost equally, with effective punching having the ability to determine rounds.
                  You need to learn how to score fights.

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                  • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    cotto landed more jabs that's it... but mosley was landing ****in bombs on cotto (I guess thats why cotto started running)...

                    don't tell me a jab > a power punch.... if you really believe that just quit watching boxing right now.
                    Miguel landed at a higher percentage throughout the fight. In addition, total punchstats do not tell the whole story. The round by round punchstats are more telling as to who won what round, and even those do not tell the whole story.

                    For example, Mosley could land 30 punches in one round, and then 10 in the next two.
                    Cotto could land 15 punches per round and still win two of the three rounds, but trail on the punchstats, 50-45.

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                    • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      cotto landed more jabs that's it... but mosley was landing ****in bombs on cotto (I guess thats why cotto started running)...

                      don't tell me a jab > a power punch.... if you really believe that just quit watching boxing right now.
                      "Mosley doesn't seem the least bit upset with the decision. He says he felt it was a very close fight. Mosley admits to being buzzed every now and then by a Cotto left and thinks he hurt Cotto with a few shots as well."
                      http://boxing.about.com/b/2007/11/10...d-by-round.htm

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