DEEPSTRIKE by Jabbr: The End Of Compubox And The Dave Morettis Of the World?

[Jsmooth9876]

lol I hope not. From my point of view, whatever model is used, it's based on those four criteria. In fact, it's more advanced than my own judging criteria. My criteria is that with clean punches, the whole knuckle of the glove has to land. Partially blocked shots are not considered clean punches. People disagree on that, and DEEPSTRIKE will count punches that punches through gloves or predominately land, despite catching glove. I also had three different punches. Regular punches. Hard punches, and then damaging punches (staggering punches). This AI actually assesses five different degrees of damaging punches.

What I find extremely interesting is that it graphs out and keeps track of combination punches. It's a fascinating graph. If you get a chance, check out the end of each round. It also assess who's applying pressure and who's being the aggressor.

Apparently, they've been using this for amateur bouts around the country to great success. With the right setup, it can provide a visual presentation and statistical presentation in real time. This really is the future.

And in regard to different models providing varied interpretations, I think we can all qualify what is a landed punch and what is a missed punch. It may not be 100 percent perfect, but it is clearly superior to how judging is conducted at the moment.

I'd be for anything that takes human error out of the equation to be honest. way too many garbage scorecards over the years to say the current system is the best option

[Cypocryphy]

I'd be for anything that takes human error out of the equation to be honest. way too many garbage scorecards over the years to say the current system is the best option

Absolutely. It's been so bad lately. It's ruining the sport. From seeing these young, upcoming boxers get robbed to even the big names, I just don't have the stomach for it anymore. Most the robberies that I see occur happen on undercards (mostly on Top Rank to be honest). It turns the stomach man. Sports don't follow scripts, which is why I don't consider boxing to be much of a sport anymore.

[Cypocryphy]

Ah ha! Here we go. They did one on Duran vs Hagler. Let's see who won. Do you have your original scorecard?

I rewatched this fight last night. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but all I have to say about this fight is "Damn, Duran is hard to hit." I also have to say "Damn, Hagler was a badass inside fighter." I forgot how badass Hagler is on the inside.

I recommend comparing this to your own personal scorecard (if you ever scored or rescored the fight). Very interesting.

We should be supporting Jabbr, the company who produces DeepStrike.

(By the way, why is this not getting any responses by the Loma fight, people can't let it go?)

[Cypocryphy]

DeepStrike is capable of determining the level of impact a clean punch has on a boxer. In other words, it is capable of determining the "effect" of a punch by qualifying it on a six degree scale, from no contact to max contact. In the other thread, a few forum members asked how it is capable of accomplishing this and one claimed that it is incapable of determining the strength of impact or, more specifically, the "effect" of the punch. I'm going to state what the creators of DeepStrike stated regarding its capability of assessing the level of impact a punch has on its target.

DeepStrike is capable of determining the strength of impact based on various factors from visual cues, usually acquired from numerous video feeds around the ring. From this, it is able to qualify the level of impact and give it a rating. The quality rating is a regression model that funnels various features into a single score, briefly it considers 3 things:

• Cleanliness: Does the punch land cleanly, or is partially or fully blocked
• Accuracy: Does the punch land in a way that can transfer power, or is it just grazing the target or being rolled away
• Effect: Does the target show visible effect when hit, i.e. is the head bumping and how much is it bumping

DeepStrike is constantly being developed and improved upon, so it's an evolving system. The more it is used, the better it becomes. The creators of DeepStrike (Jabbr) welcome positive feedback in order to make the system even better, so if anyone has an idea on how to improve it or make it better than it is, or if a mistake is found, then Jabbr will welcome the feedback.

(One of my threads highlighting a single fight analysis has been closed for some unknown reason. However, I want to add this because it was something that consistently came up in the previous thread.)

[aboutfkntime]

I've been watching these matches that have been judged by DeepStrike, an artificial intelligence boxing scoring system produced by Jabbr. I have been going out of my way to find mistakes with DeepStrike, and 99 percent of the time, I'm wrong. DeepStrike is incredibly accurate.

Jabbr who makes DeepStrike has been uploading some recent fights to show how accurate it is and how it would help clean up the sport of boxing. We all know that Compubox on the best of days is only moderately accurate. Too many times there are huge discrepancies in punches landed, and in those instances, it is su****iously favorable to the A-side fighter, practically exclusively favorable.

There are also the issues the sport has with poor judging, and it appears that DeepStrike offers the public the opportunity to help clean up the sport and remove human error, whether it's from incompetence, bias or corruption. Of course with the issue of corruption, there will be a lot of resistance toward replacing human judges with AI. These promotional companies and networks are not going to willingly lose the ability to influence the outcome of a match, so I'm not confident that DeepStrike's services will be enlisted anytime soon.

Nonetheless, I believe that we, as boxing fans, should support Jabbr and Deepstrike. I think we should push to have DeepStrike the standard for judging professional boxing matches. As I understand it, although DeepStrike cannot visual represent the fight in real time (being 3x slower than the actual fight), it can determine pouches landed and missed in real time. So at the moment, it is superior to Compubox.

As an example of DeepStrikes capabilities, we have Canelo vs Golovkin II. I encourage you to try to find something the AI missed. I haven't finished the fight yet, but so far, every time I have though the AI missed or misrepresented a strike, I saw I was the one who was incorrect after slowing the fight down and watching in slow-motion.

Golovkin vs Canelo II:

(BTW: Let's see how long it takes aboutfkntime to show his ugly mug in this thread. I give it less than 24 hours )

what a total muppet

typical casual fan ******ity

there is literally no reason for a boxing fan to ever mention compubox..... because, ' punches landed ' is NOT official scoring criteria

so..... wanking on about a better version of compubox, simply because you have no idea who won the fight..... is just casual fan ******ity

I will explain how this sport works.....



1) ' punches landed ' is not official scoring criteria, you muppet..... " clean hard punches " is the official scoring criteria that has you so confused..... which is why Olympic-level amateurs often need to adapt their style when they turn pro, because professional boxing is not about scoring points..... pro boxing is " The Hurt Game " son, and don't you ever forget it..... " clean, hard, punches ", nothing else



not probing or pushed jabs, not ineffective glancing hooks / uppercuts, not meaningless taps to the body, nothing that hits gloves forearms shoulders or the back of the head..... NONE OF THAT SHlT, is official scoring criteria..... judges will not score anything that does not land clean, or anything that is not thrown with bad intentions

back in the day compubox was regarded as a total joke..... they would often score 40+ punches for a fighter who landed about 15..... crazy high punch stats were commonplace because compubox counted EVERYTHING, including ineffective punches that did not land cleanly like the examples I gave above..... compubox is obviously not as bad as it was 30 years ago, but it is still nowhere near accurate enough, or capable enough (see point 2 below), to judge a professional boxing match



2) " clean hard punches "..... is only 1 of the 4 official scoring criteria..... the other three being - Defense / Ring Generalship / Effective Aggression..... but unfortunately, compubox - and you casual fan idiots - know nothing about 3/4 of the official scoring criteria



thinking that two guys with a clicker can replace a bench of trained judges is fkn ridiculous

not understanding the official scoring criteria is probably why you casuals cry robbery all the time and never seem to know who won the fight

FACT: Defense..... Ring Generalship..... and Effective Aggression..... are also official scoring criteria, you muppet..... despite the fact that compubox - and you casuals - have no idea what they are

Give me an example of a fight that DeepStrike judged, and show me how it scored Ring Generalship..... I will wait








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