Mayweather vs Marquez is the same that Hopkins vs Oscar/Tito??

[IMDAZED]

Yes in the case of Oscar. No in the case of Tito.

Oscar started as a lightweight. Keep in mind that Oscar is a guy who fought Chavez, Gatti, Whitaker, etc. The Pernell bout was highly competitive with many people thinking Pea won. The other bouts had their moments. The thought that any of those guys would/could fight Bernard is crazy.

Every admits that Oscar's best weight, in his prime, is not above 147. Everyone agrees that Oscar was fat and slow at 160 and Sturm was robbed.

So, how is Oscar a legitimate opponent for Hopkins?

...would you want to see Floyd vs Hopkins?


Hopkins last four fights made:

Ornelas: A MW/SMW
Pavlik: A MW
Calzaghe: a SMW- loss
Wright: a JMW/MW

True Story.

Agreed on Oscar and Hopkins pulling a Mayweather by avoiding his own division.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

****** question

ofcourse not!!!

[MaYaN_SuN]

You kiddin me? It's worse...

Oscar and Tito are big guys, them goin up to 160 didn't necessarily mean they were entirely out of their league. Tito and Oscar were meant to move up in weight just based on their physiques. That's always the case with bigger lightweights, they cut weight and try to get that lightweight belt real quick, till they start to fill out more, then they move up.

lol Mayweather came in as a full blown WW if not bigger for a fight against a guy who spent his entire career at featherweight for the most part. Marquez had 2 fights at lightweight, and then he called out Floyd. What did Floyd do? Did he laugh it off? Nah, lol he probably came in his pants as he jumped on that opportunity like the broad that he is. He actually took that **** serious, lol dude's such a ***** that it's actually pretty ****in hilarious. The guy is such a clown, lol I mean hen he's not crying, and ****ing whinning about how no one likes him, and callin dudes "uncle tom's," he's just out cherry pickin his opponents to death

lol I don't know, but he has to be the biggest joke in boxing.

[MANGLER]

No. Felix and DLH won MW belts prior to facin Bhop, tho DLH really shoulda lost to Sturm. By doin so, they proved themselves at MW. I don't rate the DLH win as highly as the Felix win tho.

[Al Haymon]

lol Mayweather came in as a full blown WW if not bigger for a fight against a guy who spent his entire career at featherweight for the most part.


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This is the kind of comparison that looks biased and uninformed. Why don't you compare apples-to-apples?

Say: Floyd came in as a JMW againt a guy who came in as a WW.

or

Floyd , who fought most of his career at SFW/LW fought a guy who spent most of his career at FW/SFW.

It is a but absurd to compare Floyd NOW to marquez FOUR YEARS AGO.

Present vs present. Or past vs past.

Not Present vs past.

[IMDAZED]

Anyone who thinks Hops beat up a welter in Tito is an idiot.

Seriously.

[MaYaN_SuN]

This is the kind of comparison that looks biased and uninformed. Why don't you compare apples-to-apples?

Say: Floyd came in as a JMW againt a guy who came in as a WW.

or

Floyd , who fought most of his career at SFW/LW fought a guy who spent most of his career at FW/SFW.

It is a but absurd to compare Floyd NOW to marquez FOUR YEARS AGO.

Present vs present. Or past vs past.

Not Present vs past.

The **** are you talkin about?

Marquez was a featherweight, a featherweight who was barely able to hold on to his attributes at lightweight. Which is why, he never moved up earlier in his career (that light bulb should be illuminating right about now, da durrrrrr). Marquez isn't one these guys who dances between Jr WW and WW. Guy only has 2 fights at LW.

Marquez and Mayweather are in two completely different divisions. And that **** wasn't exactly that hard to see beforehand either, lol unless you're a flat out ****in moron.

And the fact there was never a contracted weight..? lol Are you ****in kiddin me? Instead of standing his ground for a 147lb fight, Mayweather with the help of Goldenboy kept that **** in the dark and basically sent Marquez to the plank. But the fact Mayweather needed all that leverage, against a featherweight?.....lol Be serious, biggest FRAUD in boxing, pound 4 pound.

[Kendo]

You cant taint Hops for beating Tito when he wasnt even expected to win the fight. He was a total underdog and to tito what tito was supposed to do to hops. Cant discredit him at all. DLH didnt really do that bad. Hops just landed a picture perfect body shot.

[ИATAS]

Oscar started as a lightweight. Keep in mind that Oscar is a guy who fought Chavez, Gatti, Whitaker, etc. The Pernell bout was highly competitive with many people thinking Pea won. The other bouts had their moments. The thought that any of those guys would/could fight Bernard is crazy.

Every admits that Oscar's best weight, in his prime, is not above 147.

So what? Oscar fought at 154 pounds for four years by the time he fought Hopkins at the catch weight of 156. Even if you say oscar's best work was at 147, that doesn't mean he wasn't a natural light middleweight at the time, he clearly grew out of 147 (which is why he never went back, well except his last fight against Pac which proved to be disastrous because he obviously long ago out grew that weight class).

So even if oscar looked like **** at 160 against Sturm, it still isn't the same as Marquez/Mayweather as Oscar was a natural light middleweight at the time, not welterweight.

Ornelas: A MW/SMW

Tune up. Who cares?

Pavlik: A MW

Who's previous fight was at 166 and was planning on leaving 160 b4 losing to bhop (they are same size).

You're logic = hopkins was a blown up middleweight when he beat Tarver. But of course you don't see it that way because you discredit b-hop's accomplishments.

Calzaghe: a SMW

LHW. Calzaghe was easily a true LH at that point in time and he said for a number of years his struggles making 168. He further proved he was naturally fine at 175 against Jones.

[nachorjj]

I forgoted Winky