Mayweather vs Marquez is the same that Hopkins vs Oscar/Tito??

**Spray_resistant** · 10-07-2009, 07:34 AM

Not the same as with Tito because he moved up and won a title in dominant fashion from Joppy. If I am not mistaken he was favored to beat B-hop based on how Tito looked against Joppy and how lackluster B-hop looked in his win over Keith Holmes.....Oscar it can be compared to because he really didn't win any fights against top MWs, was taken to school by Sturm and got a gift to set up the fight with Hopkins.

**Doctor_Tenma** · 10-07-2009, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

Not the same as with Tito because he moved up and won a title in dominant fashion from Joppy. If I am not mistaken he was favored to beat B-hop based on how Tito looked against Joppy and how lackluster B-hop looked in his win over Keith Holmes.....Oscar it can be compared to because he really didn't win any fights against top MWs, was taken to school by Sturm and got a gift to set up the fight with Hopkins.

He faught Strum at 160 and faught B-Hop at a catch weight of 156, 2 lbs more then his natural weight. What's 2 lbs??

**Spray_resistant** · 10-07-2009, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!

He faught Strum at 160 and faught B-Hop at a catch weight of 156, 2 lbs more then his natural weight. What's 2 lbs??

So the scale is more important than how much naturally bigger b-hop is? I am so sick of the idea on here that two ppl doing totally different things to make a scale read the same measurement for both ppl means we have a legit fight and everything is ok. In terms of importance B-hop > Scales.

**Ravishing** · 10-07-2009, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by nachorjj

What do you think is the same or not???

Bernard won against Oscar, but Oscar actually fought Bernard for what it's worth until the body shot came. Marquez looked like a dear in headlights against Mayweather.

**Doctor_Tenma** · 10-07-2009, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

So the scale is more important than how much naturally bigger b-hop is? I am so sick of the idea on here that two ppl doing totally different things to make a scale read the same measurement for both ppl means we have a legit fight and everything is ok. In terms of importance B-hop > Scales.

B-Hop wasn't 100%, more like 80% and he looked it. I give B-Hop full credit for that win.

**Doctor_Tenma** · 10-07-2009, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by Ravishing

Bernard won against Oscar, but Oscar actually fought Bernard for what it's worth until the body shot came. Marquez looked like a dear in headlights against Mayweather.

I was impressed with DLH, he did ALOT better then I expected. Then again, B-Hop wasn't 100%, I see no reason as to why people would discredit that win.

**Spray_resistant** · 10-07-2009, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!

I was impressed with DLH, he did ALOT better then I expected. Then again, B-Hop wasn't 100%, I see no reason as to why people would discredit that win.

It was what it was, kind of just a side show to make money that was planned before DLH even decided to move up. Sturm proved he didn't belong there and B-hop submitted further proof with a hard body shot that if he(DLH) was bigger or B-hop was smaller probably would have taken better.

**The_Demon** · 10-07-2009, 08:32 AM

too be honest hopkins vs de la hoya was a joke anyway,a glorified sparring session
the tito win was legit
when a guy gets in the ring with someone who is meants too destroy him and instead he totally dominates him he deserves a lot of credit
lacy/calzaghe,mosley/marg,tito/bhop

**Doctor_Tenma** · 10-07-2009, 08:39 AM

He dropped Roberto Allen with body shots, Allen is bigger then DLH. Strum may have proved that DLH had no business at 160 but we're talking 156, 2 lbs more then DLH's natural weight. If anyone was affected by anything, it was B-Hop.

Mayweather vs Marquez is the same that Hopkins vs Oscar/Tito??