Fury - Usyk winner will be very disputed champion

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    Fury - Usyk winner will be very disputed champion

    Whoever wins, the main question will remain:

    Does the winner of Fury - Usyk beat Zhang, Hrgovic and others?

    I mean, it is a nice fight, but let`s not pretend like these two cleaned out the division, this is clearly not the case here.

    Whoever wins this, will have still a long road to prove being the best.
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    They will have proven who the best of their generation is.

    Hrgovic, Zhang are the next cycle of contenders. In this era where guys only fight once or twice per year, nobody is going to clean out an entire division. Crawford has not beaten everyone at 147, Inoue didn't face Casemiro when unifying bantam, Canelo didn't face Benavidez when unifying 168.

    If Fury beats Usyk, then beats AJ, Hrgovic, Zhang, rematches Ngannou, it will take him about 3 years. By then new contenders will have emerged so you'd still be able to say he hadn't cleaned out the division.

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      First undisputed Heavyweight fight in 20+ years and you’re still complaining. Just STFU man. Undisputed means undisputed.

      Lennox Lewis hadn’t beat Bowe, Moorer, Byrd, Ruiz or even Tyson yet, however, when he beat Holyfield there were no arguments about who was the best in the division because he became UNDISPUTED champion.

      You new breed of fans are f***ing weird man.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Clegg
        They will have proven who the best of their generation is.

        Hrgovic, Zhang are the next cycle of contenders. In this era where guys only fight once or twice per year, nobody is going to clean out an entire division. Crawford has not beaten everyone at 147, Inoue didn't face Casemiro when unifying bantam, Canelo didn't face Benavidez when unifying 168.

        If Fury beats Usyk, then beats AJ, Hrgovic, Zhang, rematches Ngannou, it will take him about 3 years. By then new contenders will have emerged so you'd still be able to say he hadn't cleaned out the division.
        Completely agree.

        Literally nobody in boxing history has beaten every single potential contender. It’s impossible. There’s always gonna be somebody they could’ve potentially fought.

        When Fury beat Wlad for the HW title, Hrgovic wasn’t even a pro and Zhang was having 4 round fights. Modern fans are just never happy.


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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #5
          Ruiz, Sanchez, Hrgovic, Zhang, Parker

          5 legit contenders, Usyk or Fury hasn`t faced any of them.

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            #6
            Put aside the "undisputed" tag - it's a nonsense marketing term premised on the arbitrary authority of corrupt sanctioning bodies. Just enjoy seeing #1 vs #2, don't overthink it.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              Right all of those other fighters you are mentioning are not the same generation of Fury, Wilder, Joshua and Usyk 'Accept Zhang'.

              The Kiltschko's were about and winning when Lennox Lewis won the Undisturbed titles vs Evander Holyfield 'But that was irrelevant because they were a generation or generations below Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield and Rid**** Bowe'.

              As I have stated before 'Fury, Wilder, Joshua and Usyk' Are competing in their own competition, to see who will be the last man standing from their era.

              Note: But I will say that? Zhang may be the only other fighter that should at some point get a title fight against 'Whoever becomes the Undisputed Champion'.

              Fury really has not been a great World Champion, and his path towards the Undisputed titles has been lacking really. But if Fury becomes the Undisturbed Champion, then he will 100% be the Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion in that moment.

              Oleksandr Usyk's legacy is already very clear, Usyk is already a all-time great fighter 'Usyk is a Olympic Champion, Former Undisputed Cruiser weight World Champion and current Unified World Heavyweight Champion. Usyk is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing' etc.

              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 11-19-2023, 09:59 AM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                Whoever wins, the main question will remain:

                Does the winner of Fury - Usyk beat Zhang, Hrgovic and others?

                I mean, it is a nice fight, but let`s not pretend like these two cleaned out the division, this is clearly not the case here.

                Whoever wins this, will have still a long road to prove being the best.
                - -Let’s not pretend your minder just swapped out U soiled BigBoys.

                AJ and Usyk are the clear unified champs of this era. No one close…NOONE!!!

                Blubber and Deyonce the low hanging overripe Fruits of this era for soft lads to swoon over…

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                  #9
                  It establishes a pecking order at best, we can say for certain that THIS is the number 1 man at HW and for anyone to be the man, they gotta beat the man.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    Right all of those other fighters you are mentioning are not the same generation of Fury, Wilder, Joshua and Usyk 'Accept Zhang'.


                    Fury beat 3 legit guys in the last 8 years: Wilder, Whyte, Wallin.

                    Usyk only beat Joshua, Chisora and Dubois at hw.

                    They both have a long road before claiming being the best of any era.

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