Comments Thread For: Crawford: F--- The IBF! They Stripped Me Damn Near 2 1/2 Months After [I Won] My Title

[MONGOOSE66]

I agree that he outclassed Canelo quite easily. DUH

My point is that Canelo, especially at that point, wasn't all that.

He had controversial fights with Trout & Lara at that stage in his career.

He wasn't some wrecking machine that couldn't be beaten until years later at 168lbs.

Floyd fought him at 152 because he didn't want to fight him at 154.

Yea, Canelo was just 42-0 DUH. Moron

[MONGOOSE66]

fastest..canelo was a frickin zombie against floyd of course he had no speed, power, nor stamina. its silly to pretend otherwise. at 154 he was already drained and his performances were severely underwhelming, once he moved up to 160 and beyond he was able to fight much better(prob due to ped's as well) he barely beat trout which should tell you everything you need to know about his level and that was at 154 not 152. 2 154 pound champs fighting at 152? that will go down as one of the most cowardly moves ever in boxing. making maidana wear pillow gloves a close second

Huh? Zombie? 23 yo Canelo was the fastest hes ever been. Mayweather just made him look ******ED.

[MONGOOSE66]

I disagree with you, of course it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it just like my response is my opinion and I’m entitled to mine as well. That being said, I feel canelo looked much faster and sharper at 55 vs khan that I’ve ever seen, at least in regards to speed. Seems like they worked on speed for that one. His mind was also sharp because even though he wasn’t nowhere near as fast as Amir, his brain was processing info at a much faster speed then that of Amir’s. By round 3, canelo was slipping jabs and combos and coming back with hard body shots and eventually hit Amir so many times with that right hand to the body that ultimately set up the overhand right because Amir was wary of those right hands to the body and canelo feinted to the body again with his right and Amir dropped his elbow and canelo came over the top with that one hitter quitter. Was beautiful to see. Canelo may have hit mayweather clean, or not, but let’s not act like that was the hardest hitting canelo. Far from it, those extra 2 pounds of weight when you don’t have an ounce of water weight to lose it from anymore is drastically detrimental to not only your strength but overall health, people have feinted and even passsed away from sh.it like that. I don’t knock Floyd for suggesting the 52 catch weight, team canelo signed so no excuses. If anything, team canelo at the age of 23 to be asked that the fight must happen at 52 should be flattering to them and seen as a compliment of the highest form. At least that’s the way I see it. He signed he got schooled but look at him now. If you don’t think 2 lbs isn’t sh.it, I tend to disagree with you or anyone else’s that don’t see how important those extra 2 pounds were. Think about this, if Floyd was confident in being able to defeat canelo and 2-3 pounds was nothing, then you and I and everyone knows that Floyd would of just made the rematch at 55 for the chance to be lineal at middle weight after canelo beat cotto for the lineal title. That was NEVER even explored by team mayweather and that’s all I gotta say about that, and should tell you what they thought of canelo and an extra 3 pounds. A fight vs that canelo at that weight at that time would of been 1 of the top 3 selling fights of all time and gotten mayweather another title at another weight class to add to his legacy and bank account… but didn’t happen. I know team canelo would of loved the opportunity, just like any other man that loses to another man would want a chance to redeem themselves. Floyd is an ATG and nothing or no one can ever take that away from him. So, yup just my two cents.

Watch the fastest boxer against Mayweather which is Judah. It did him no good. Same for Canelo.

[Robi13]

Watch the fastest boxer against Mayweather which is Judah. It did him no good. Same for Canelo.

Yes sir exactly! Canelo and Mayweather boxing iq’s are just unmatched much more so Floyd’s as we saw in their fight. However, canelos lack of power and stamina at 52 has to be taken into acct as far as what we saw that night. Why? Because when you hit as hard as some of these top power hitting boxers hit, you can then use feints that make the other fighter shake. You can basically manipulate your opponent because they do not want to get hit by heavy hands like that, much less get stopped. So, those extra 3 pounds would have done a difference in how the fight played out for sure not saying they canelo would have won or Floyd would have won. One or the other could have won I’m just saying it would have played out differently under those different circumstances. Power, is a huge advantage if you can have that attribute on your side on fight night. It’s no secret, of course it’s not the end all be all. Would of loved to have seen them run it back at 55 for Floyd to add to that legacy and canelo to have the chance at revenge… but it didn’t happen and that wasn’t because of canelo. My opinions of course.

[daggum]

Huh? Zombie? 23 yo Canelo was the fastest hes ever been. Mayweather just made him look ******ED.

he was drained. accept it. stop the denial. why did 2 154 pound champs fight at 152? so canelo would be drained and slow...and he clearly was. he was 23 therefore he couldnt be drained? start making sense please. he was also a 154 pound fighter...not a 152 pound fighter. canelo was the weakest hes ever been, not fastest. get it right.

[MONGOOSE66]

Yes sir exactly! Canelo and Mayweather boxing iq’s are just unmatched much more so Floyd’s as we saw in their fight. However, canelos lack of power and stamina at 52 has to be taken into acct as far as what we saw that night. Why? Because when you hit as hard as some of these top power hitting boxers hit, you can then use feints that make the other fighter shake. You can basically manipulate your opponent because they do not want to get hit by heavy hands like that, much less get stopped. So, those extra 3 pounds would have done a difference in how the fight played out for sure not saying they canelo would have won or Floyd would have won. One or the other could have won I’m just saying it would have played out differently under those different circumstances. Power, is a huge advantage if you can have that attribute on your side on fight night. It’s no secret, of course it’s not the end all be all. Would of loved to have seen them run it back at 55 for Floyd to add to that legacy and canelo to have the chance at revenge… but it didn’t happen and that wasn’t because of canelo. My opinions of course.

People just don’t understand “fighting weight”. As much as you are saying that Canelo was cutting too much weight (3 pounds). Mayweather was going up making himself less EFFICIENT.

[Loque-san]

he was drained. accept it. stop the denial. why did 2 154 pound champs fight at 152? so canelo would be drained and slow...and he clearly was. he was 23 therefore he couldnt be drained? start making sense please. he was also a 154 pound fighter...not a 152 pound fighter. canelo was the weakest hes ever been, not fastest. get it right.

Canelo looked bad at the weigh-in and definitely fought like he had no energy that night. He was probably not even in his prime back then. His best version is somewhere between 160 and 168. Also like you said, Floyd had no problem facing Cotto at 154, because he knew Cotto wasn't a real super welter.

Floyd is basically insulting his fanbase's intelligence, and they praise him for that.

[hennanra1000]

They stripped you because you had no intention of fighting your mandatory. You weren’t even mentioning boots name. You said you were only Interested in big money fights. You gotta understand that you’re not at canelo or Mayweather level of choosing your opponents. The only elite opponent you beat was Errol Spence. That’s it. You were used to fighting uknown bums like David Avenesyan and old washed up ex champions like khan Brook and porter

Do you even proof-read the nonsense you write man? He is WAITING ON PBC / SPENCE to confirm the date - namely . Re him fighting unknowns, he was locked out by an incompetent promoter (Arum) whose ego was hurt when he was challenged and said he was a 'boring' fighter despite having 75% KO ratio. He was just really poorly promoted.

Further what subjective nonsense is this that 'you are not on x fighters level'? Stripping a fighter has to be a RULE applied CONSISTENTLY. How does Errol get years of not fighting mandatories and dodging Crawford (we now know why) without getting stripped?

And seriously you are gonna call Porter washed up at 34 (2 years after he had lost a close split decision w/ Spence and NEVER been knocked out against tough opponents). Terrence was first person to hand him a TKO. You could argue he wasn't prime but Porter is an under-rated legend IMHO with a resume that is stacked. May be a long time ago but he even beat Usyk in amateurs.

Would respect your post if you were more nuanced and not 'skipping' or distorting all those facts. I agree w/ you Crawford should fight boots btw, Boots is an unknown quantity so would be really interested to see how he works at that level. But remember PBC would have been ones demanding rematch clause so how was Crawford supposed to get out of that? What point is there in mentioning Boots name when his rematch isn't even announced (thanks to Haymon / PBC).

[Robi13]

People just don’t understand “fighting weight”. As much as you are saying that Canelo was cutting too much weight (3 pounds). Mayweather was going up making himself less EFFICIENT.

No where near the same. Mayweather walk around weight is/was above 152 anyway so he still had to lose weight to make 152 but less weight so he was more comfortable stronger more energized. Seems like you the one that don’t know or you’re making a good case to act like it. What Mayweather had to do to make 152 didn’t do anything to him but help him out in all aspects. The total opposite was the case for canelo. You ever have to make weight for competition? Google it if you don’t know

[dan-b]

Someone needs to tell Keith Idec it's acceptable journalistic practice to edit out all the "you knows". Unless he already knows and does it to mock the boxers.