Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: I Don't Live in People's Ideologies, I Have My Own Standards That I Set

[thack]

no one watch's a fight to see what he thinks man that guy must smoke a lotta dope in between fights........Josh would do better tho get in the ring and try like hell to just fight no matter get knocked around lose even but that would spark more interest in him and draw some fans in then all the intellectual thoughts up inside his smokey brain...

Agreed , I'm not sure who is more lost him or his poor fans! It seems these poor souls are more interested than him.

[SteveM]

Joshua performance last 3 fights
Usyk 2 ->> Joshua B+ - best I have seen him box but came up against an A fighter giving an A+ performance
Franklin - >> Joshua C - average level performance. He never looked in trouble against a serviceable opponent - should've/could've gotten him out of there
Helenius- >> Joshua B - he did what he was supposed to do against a dangerous opponent. He boxed patiently until he saw an opening then got a one punch KO

Given that the 2nd and 3rd fighters are with a new trainer and Usyk 2 was with a new trainer these are not bad performances at all.

I think a lot of the criticism he gets is a result of two things 1/ the frustration fans have with the HW division - we want better match-ups more often and we are not getting them at all or not quick enough
and 2/ Hearn stirring the pot about making a fight with Wilder and it falling through. Now, if it ever became clear that Joshua has told Hearn "I never want to fight Wiler so just make it appear as if I do but then we'll switch opponents" - if that ever became apparent then Joshua would deserve every ounce of criticism he gets. But I think it's just Hearn doing what promoters do - keeping his name out there with a good dose of BS.

[SteveM]

So what would you say Joshua's biggest achievement is to date , do you think it's being a two weight 'world champion' by beating Charles Martin and then a obese Andy Ruiz , I think his win over a novice Dillian Whyte is up there , then it's a bit of a struggle?

Come on man - the Klitschko fight was one of the most exciting HW fights in the last decade - and even though Wlad was old - he was up for it that night - more so than he was 'up' for the Fury fight

Charles Martin - yeah he's not much - but he just gave the future of HW boxing according to Fury (Jared Anderson) everything he could handle in a 12 round fight and that's what - 7 years after the Martin-AJ fight

[Eff Pandas]

As he should. As the saying goes the man who is a friend to everyone is an enemy to himself. I think AJ is legit just learning more about this sort of mindset is the issue for him.

[Apollo7]

Agreed , I'm not sure who is more lost him or his poor fans! It seems these poor souls are more interested than him.

You seem more interested in him than his fans.

[thack]

Come on man - the Klitschko fight was one of the most exciting HW fights in the last decade - and even though Wlad was old - he was up for it that night - more so than he was 'up' for the Fury fight

Charles Martin - yeah he's not much - but he just gave the future of HW boxing according to Fury (Jared Anderson) everything he could handle in a 12 round fight and that's what - 7 years after the Martin-AJ fight

Hey I agree it was an exciting fight but just look at how faded Wlad was , he dropped Joshua pretty heavily but was swinging and missed a quite stationary target when in his time would have definitely of finished him . Charles Martin is not much , I’m not even sure Anderson is , he gets tagged too often

[PRINCEKOOL]

So what would you say Joshua's biggest achievement is to date , do you think it's being a two weight 'world champion' by beating Charles Martin and then a obese Andy Ruiz , I think his win over a novice Dillian Whyte is up there , then it's a bit of a struggle?

I know that you think Joshua beating Whyte is his best win 'Because you think that makes Tyson Fury's resume and achievements look better'.

Joshua's win over Whyte, is just a solid win 'Both fighters were domestic to European level fighters at the time'.

You are mocking Andy Ruiz Junior, but? If Fury was to fight and beat Ruiz Junior 'That would be Fury's third best win in his resume'.

Biggest achievements.

1: Anthony Joshua is a Olympic Champion, a Olympic Gold Medal has more prestige than any individual World titles besides a Undisputed title 'Tyson Fury's highest achievement as a Amateur was losing a some what competitive fight vs David Price, who was then a commonwealth Bronze Medalist'.

2: Whether you like to admit it or not, Anthony Joshua is a two time World Heavyweight Champion 'And unified heavyweight Champion'. He has also fought in 12 Championship fights, winning 9 Championship fights 7 of those wins were World title defenses'.

How many more Championship fights, do you think Tyson Fury is going to have?

3: Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua 'The greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'. And it is one of the best wins in British boxing of the last decade 'You can honestly only rate Fury's win over Kiltschko as a better win in terms of historical magnitude'. But the actual fight, the circumstances and the version of Kiltschko who Joshua beat? I rate Joshua's win over Kiltschko as a more conclusive win, and Joshua beat the version of Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should of fought in their rematch'.

It was not Tyson Fury who transcend the Heavyweight Division into a new era 'It was Anthony Joshua. Joshua was the man who beat up and knocked out Kiltschko, and forced him int retirement. Kiltschko never retired after being beaten by Tyson Fury. Kiltschko a Champion of close to 10 years unfortunately due to Tyson Fury's tribulations was never given the opportunity to win back his titles'.

Note: Overall mate, I know these times are difficult for hardcore Fury fans. Anthony Joshua has overachieved in his career, and the competition between the top-4 Heavyweights is still on going etc.

[Zelda]

Can't you think of a more interesting response than "muh Wilder" at this point? I get it - I really do - that people still want to see this hasbeen matchup but there are surely other things to talk about. Beside, there are ample "muh Wilder" threads you can contribute to near the top of the forum.

Other things like what...AJ vs Manuel Charr or Kabayel? or Wilder not fighting at all or going into MMA? What do you want me to do when Ruiz won't fight anyone because he prices himself out, Wilder has one fight in 2 yrs, AJ is fighting bums coming off defeats? or the 2nd tier HWs fighting nobodies?

[57Blues]

Agreed , I'm not sure who is more lost him or his poor fans! It seems these poor souls are more interested than him.

yes it seems boxing the bussiness of boxing is all about the draw and little about the fight. More about the hype that getting the fighters matched up right. without a Comish giving directions to the greedy and ****** promo boys we will get talk from the likes of Josh who will continue to make big money and care less and less about the profession that made him have a name and a prize to grab inside the ring.

[57Blues]

Other things like what...AJ vs Manuel Charr or Kabayel? or Wilder not fighting at all or going into MMA? What do you want me to do when Ruiz won't fight anyone because he prices himself out, Wilder has one fight in 2 yrs, AJ is fighting bums coming off defeats? or the 2nd tier HWs fighting nobodies?

you are correct Z but every body is doing it now and in every division and no matter how lousy the match ups or ugly and boring the fights and fighters have become they keep churning out bum reports and thinking that fans can not see the truth for themselves. It really shines in the Heavy division tho bc it is a division that used to shine and shine a light on all other division's but those days are long gone now.....