Did Marquez fight a Pacquiao that wasn't as good as the one who fought at 140 and 147

[Glamour Puss]

Manny has improved greatly since. A fight between the two would be different today especially given Marquez's age.

Okay, first of all, stfu you lame alt.

Second of all, you obviously don't know **** about boxing if you think Packy "has improved greatly"...

JMM MADE him look average cuz' JMM is WAYYYY better than his recent comp.

Thats all.

[el malo]

pac was weight drained in his last 3 fights at 130.

i agree, pac at jww/ww would ko jmm .

[go1nbanana]

Good thing Pac did not lost at 130 that time and then make excuses of being drained.

[jose23mex]

manny got better but so has marquez

[Pullcounter]

I'll explain it so that even you could understand.

JMM=Master World Class boxer.

By extension Pac, albeit great, looks human against him.

Diaz=Journey man tough guy who was given a gift against a shopworn EM in Chicago. Easy work for Pac.

Hatton=Tough guy with a name that in retrospect made a huge mistake hiring that clown Floyd Sr. to screw him up.

Pac landed a good punch and got him out early.

Oscar=If you think that was anything close to a prime Oscar,

1) diaz = tune up
2) hatton = hit hatton with a couple good punches and KOed him
3)dlh = payday

regardless, it was a better pac than we've seen before, with better footwork, timing, and defense

you're the idiot sir.

awww..... look at the idiot... he's so harmless.

[Glamour Puss]

1) diaz = tune up
2) hatton = hit hatton with a couple good punches and KOed him
3)dlh = payday

regardless, it was a better pac than we've seen before, with better footwork, timing, and defense


awww..... look at the idiot... he's so harmless.

You just admitted the opponents were **** yet you still try to have your cake and eat it too.

Nice owning you.

[Panopticon]

This fight can happen at any weight and I think it will still be head to head back and forth action to the end.

[EL_cano]

Manny has improved greatly since. A fight between the two would be different today especially given Marquez's age.

that is one of the reasons why people will downplay pac if he comes out victorious in their rubber match. if the fight were to take place at 140 people will criticize marquez for not fighting at his weight of 130-135.

to be fair, if the fight was to happen, it should be at a catchweight of 137.5 pounds.

[whirlwind]

I'll explain it so that even you could understand.

JMM=Master World Class boxer.

By extension Pac, albeit great, looks human against him.

Diaz=Journey man tough guy who was given a gift against a shopworn EM in Chicago. Easy work for Pac.

Hatton=Tough guy with a name that in retrospect made a huge mistake hiring that clown Floyd Sr. to screw him up.

Pac landed a good punch and got him out early.

Oscar=If you think that was anything close to a prime Oscar, you're the idiot sir.

No wonder people calling you an idiot. Its not about who you fought. Its about what you learned during a certain time period and what you got now that you doesnt have before. Like Pacquiao he's a lot stronger now at 140 than when they fought at 130. He also a lot better now with his right hand and footwork. If you did not notice that then no wonder....

[Panopticon]

Alot of the pre fight talks for Pac and Marquez 2 was based around Manny's right hand being so vastly improved. Once he failed to be super effective with it in that fight, The David Diaz fight was then pointed at to show how great his right hand is now.


Thats where we are now. Manny can land the right on slow weight drained face first opposition but he hasnt proven to me that he is effective with it against a supreme boxer like Marquez