Comments Thread For: Top Rank Prez Expects Tyson Fury To Be 'Razor Sharp' Against Oleksandr Usyk

[Convict45]

If Fury drops masses of weight for the Usyk fight, that will back fire. Whatever Fury does or alters in training for the Usyk fight 'I don't think it will have a dramatic impact on his condition'.

So how much longer is the fight going to be postponed by 2 - 3 months, I just don't think that is enough of a time frame to make any dramatic effect 'Especially to a fighter like Fury who, I don't think has a aptitude for hardcore training. Fury may think he has good work ethic, but effort is personal'.

I once watched a interview, I believe it was before Wilder II 'Fury live on air, explained to a interviewer that he had made big sacrifices for his training camp. He has done things that he has never done before' I was sitting there thinking? I wonder what Tyson Fury could of sacrificed, must be something really dramatic if he is making such a extreme point of it 'Tyson Fury then went on to tell the media interviewer, that he had stop drinking diet cokes'.

I said to myself there and then, that Tyson Fury needs to fight his nearest competition as soon as possible. Because the longer he waits to fight Joshua, or whoever that may be the more the fight will move towards them 'Even if Fury should win, and he is the more naturally gifted fighter'.

Certain behaviors no matter how insignificant over time they have a accumulative effect 'And I believe Fury's fight vs Ngannou a combinations of Fury's behaviors as a fighter throughout the years unearthed itself'.

Can he be more focused for Uysk yes? But performance in boxing is more than just being focused.

Note: For years Fury has not fought at a high level skill for skill, and at some point that will unearth itself in the ring. We have seen fighters more talented than Fury, who I believe had very similar characters 'Fighters such as Prince Naseem Hamed. Prince Naseem Hamed, was a more talented fighter than Fury and Hamed fought at a good level throughout his entire career even as a Champion. But I believe just like Tyson Fury, overtime those insignificant behaviors that certain fighters overlook had a accumulative effect.

Difference between Fury and Naseem Hamed is 'Prince Naseem Hamed lost a 12 round decision vs Antonio Barrera who is a all-time great fighter, in a semi-competitive fight. It was not really a bad loss for Prince Naseem Hamed, nowhere near to the level that his critics make out.

All Athletes have something called a 'Peak Performance ceiling or level'. Even when great athletes fall of this peak ceiling, sometimes or most of the time they are still able to ether be the best in the World or compete with the best. You see this trend in all sports, most notably in recent times with Roger Federer, Novak Djokvic and Rafael Nadal.

Federer, Djokvic, Nadal for years were not at their peak but they were still the best tennis players in the world 'They were competing many years beyond their generation. Entire new generation of Tennis Players were coming and going, but those big three Tennis players still remained.

In boxing we have seen this with Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins. For years they were nowhere near their peak, but even when they fell from their peak 'The level they were operating at was still able to compete at World level. They were still able to produce big wins, and performances'.

Fury's hardcore fans even now, believe that Fury is that type of fighter 'And he has that type of game'. Me personally I don't think he has that type of game, Fury is a great fighter but he is not at that level for me.

Note: Usyk is a not a super Heavyweight, but he is skill for skill a elite level fighter and the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing 'The situation Fury is in now, is very similar to Prince Naseem Hamed's situation vs Antonio Barrera' etc.

Fury loves fighting orthodox boxers who are more predictable, Usyk is neither orthodox or predictable.

Hamed managed to confuse most boxers with his style, until he met someone who didn’t care much for his antics, made him look like a fool as well.

[LAchargers373]

Lot of dossing in this thread. Fights happening in February both guys making life changing money. Let’s hear all the cry babies cry about how it’s not in December or call fury greedy belly and so on lmao. Never forget…you Can’t teach ******!

[LAchargers373]

If Fury drops masses of weight for the Usyk fight, that will back fire. Whatever Fury does or alters in training for the Usyk fight 'I don't think it will have a dramatic impact on his condition'.

So how much longer is the fight going to be postponed by 2 - 3 months, I just don't think that is enough of a time frame to make any dramatic effect 'Especially to a fighter like Fury who, I don't think has a aptitude for hardcore training. Fury may think he has good work ethic, but effort is personal'.

I once watched a interview, I believe it was before Wilder II 'Fury live on air, explained to a interviewer that he had made big sacrifices for his training camp. He has done things that he has never done before' I was sitting there thinking? I wonder what Tyson Fury could of sacrificed, must be something really dramatic if he is making such a extreme point of it 'Tyson Fury then went on to tell the media interviewer, that he had stop drinking diet cokes'.

I said to myself there and then, that Tyson Fury needs to fight his nearest competition as soon as possible. Because the longer he waits to fight Joshua, or whoever that may be the more the fight will move towards them 'Even if Fury should win, and he is the more naturally gifted fighter'.

Certain behaviors no matter how insignificant over time they have a accumulative effect 'And I believe Fury's fight vs Ngannou a combinations of Fury's behaviors as a fighter throughout the years unearthed itself'.

Can he be more focused for Uysk yes? But performance in boxing is more than just being focused.

Note: For years Fury has not fought at a high level skill for skill, and at some point that will unearth itself in the ring. We have seen fighters more talented than Fury, who I believe had very similar characters 'Fighters such as Prince Naseem Hamed. Prince Naseem Hamed, was a more talented fighter than Fury and Hamed fought at a good level throughout his entire career even as a Champion. But I believe just like Tyson Fury, overtime those insignificant behaviors that certain fighters overlook had a accumulative effect.

Difference between Fury and Naseem Hamed is 'Prince Naseem Hamed lost a 12 round decision vs Antonio Barrera who is a all-time great fighter, in a semi-competitive fight. It was not really a bad loss for Prince Naseem Hamed, nowhere near to the level that his critics make out.

All Athletes have something called a 'Peak Performance ceiling or level'. Even when great athletes fall of this peak ceiling, sometimes or most of the time they are still able to ether be the best in the World or compete with the best. You see this trend in all sports, most notably in recent times with Roger Federer, Novak Djokvic and Rafael Nadal.

Federer, Djokvic, Nadal for years were not at their peak but they were still the best tennis players in the world 'They were competing many years beyond their generation. Entire new generation of Tennis Players were coming and going, but those big three Tennis players still remained.

In boxing we have seen this with Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins. For years they were nowhere near their peak, but even when they fell from their peak 'The level they were operating at was still able to compete at World level. They were still able to produce big wins, and performances'.

Fury's hardcore fans even now, believe that Fury is that type of fighter 'And he has that type of game'. Me personally I don't think he has that type of game, Fury is a great fighter but he is not at that level for me.

Note: Usyk is a not a super Heavyweight, but he is skill for skill a elite level fighter and the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing 'The situation Fury is in now, is very similar to Prince Naseem Hamed's situation vs Antonio Barrera' etc.

Hahaha u wrote a book mate didn’t read any of it but the last paragraph. Usyk is “elite” based on what? A gift decision over chisora? Barely beating maris bredis? Beating AJ less convincingly than ruiz did? This myth that usyk is some feared elite boxer is laughable. Dude got knocked out by Dubois and was saved by the ref ROFL. Fury has one sub par performance after not training and people forget history lol

[crimsonfalcon07]

Hahaha u wrote a book mate didn’t read any of it but the last paragraph. Usyk is “elite” based on what? A gift decision over chisora? Barely beating maris bredis? Beating AJ less convincingly than ruiz did? This myth that usyk is some feared elite boxer is laughable. Dude got knocked out by Dubois and was saved by the ref ROFL. Fury has one sub par performance after not training and people forget history lol

Fury's history also includes getting dropped by cruiserweight Cunningham, losing his titles for PED violations, ducking the repercussions by "retiring" for "mental health" reasons so nobody could hold him accountable, having to be taken to court to honor a contractual rematch obligation (which are ******), and another joke of a "retirement". IMO it's been years since Fury has been in top form.

[LAchargers373]

Fury's history also includes getting dropped by cruiserweight Cunningham, losing his titles for PED violations, ducking the repercussions by "retiring" for "mental health" reasons so nobody could hold him accountable, having to be taken to court to honor a contractual rematch obligation (which are ******), and another joke of a "retirement". IMO it's been years since Fury has been in top form.

This is somewhat true. We can both be right

[Smash]

fury himself is quoted as saying before the ngannou fight he thinks ngannou will be a tougher fight than usyk because of his size and strength (usyk will give u a black eye but ngannou will rattle your brain) so hes going to be razor sharp for what he thinks is the easier fight?

[jackblack008]

At times I laugh alone thinking the way Ngannou whipped Fury from pillar to post. Lol.

[ELPacman]

As much as my interest in this fight is waning, I do expect Fury to come out 100% against Usyk. I truly believe he took Francis a tad lightly. I think Fury believed that a 50% version of him was still better and evidently that wasn't the case. I'd say at least 75% was needed.

Against Usyk, he knows that he'll be in against a master chess boxer and he has to be on point. He'll look like a different guy when he faces Usyk than when he faced Ngannou, for sure.

[PRINCEKOOL]

As much as my interest in this fight is waning, I do expect Fury to come out 100% against Usyk. I truly believe he took Francis a tad lightly. I think Fury believed that a 50% version of him was still better and evidently that wasn't the case. I'd say at least 75% was needed.

Against Usyk, he knows that he'll be in against a master chess boxer and he has to be on point. He'll look like a different guy when he faces Usyk than when he faced Ngannou, for sure.

In what way did Fury take Ngannou lightly? 50% is a big percentage. Really consider the things you are saying here mate.

Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury, was being billed as Tyson Fury's biggest EVER boxing event in terms of 'All of the World's attention, would be on the fight. The production and who was in attendance, was something Fury had never experience before in his life'.

Do you honestly think Tyson Fury, would of underestimated the event? Tyson Fury in his own words trained for 12 weeks specifically for this fight.

Now? Fury in the past has stated that most of his training camps were only 6 weeks in duration 'As long as a fighter has been ticking over the gym, then 6 weeks is all I need' Those are the words of Tyson Fury. Infact Tyson Fury stated this earlier this year, before the April 13th supposed fight date with Usyk.

Tyson Fury has actually mentioned before throughout his career, that he only needs 6 weeks to train for a fight 'But most recently he mentioned this again, during the Usyk negotiations'.

The only way I believe Fury could of taken Ngannou lightly is 'By on some level, not really believing that the fight would be difficult'.

When Usain Bolt was at the peak of his abilities, does anyone here think he was petrified of his competition? No. Bolt was still in condition, and still prepared optimally.

Tyson Fury prepared for Ngannou and that is why, the performance has hit team Fury very hard. If Fury had been playing about in training camp, then Fury and his team would not of behaved how they did during the aftermath of the fight.

No post fight press conference, and not many interviews from Fury himself after the fight 'Fury was checked by Ngannou, and it has hit him hard'.

Fury is very smart when it comes to boxing, reading a fight and understanding his competitive landscape. If Tyson Fury would of not trained for Ngannou, and still performed the way he did vs Ngannou 'I actually think Fury would be honest, and tell the media that he was complacent. And I also think Fury would take positives from the performance' i.e He was whacked by Ngannou, but he still got up and won a few rounds here and there.

But I don't think that is the case, Fury has from what information is out there 'Trained, with a good level of intensity for 12 weeks'.

I have seen people saying, well? Sugar Hill Steward only came into the camp during the latter 5 weeks 'Sugar Hill Steward also just like Tyson Fury, has stated that a top fighter should be able to prepare for a fight with a 6 weeks training camp' I believe Steward made this statement, when discussing Fury's up and coming fights.

For me personally, I would expect any half decent boxer who has a good level of work ethic to be training all year round. But of course the intensity will be less compared to a training camp. I don't think there is a specific duration for a training camp, it all depends on the fighter.

The way Tyson Fury speaks is, with the same lingo as a old school fighter. Fury is in some ways a old school fighter in terms of his attitude to I would say his altitude to training. In Fury's mind, as long as he completes his training camp then he is ready. His readiness is not determined by numbers, statistics or any new school methodologies.

I believe under Peter Fury and much of Fury's early career, this is the type of attitude he had.

Note: Tyson Fury should be in heavy training right now, if he is to take advantage of his situation. Fury performance vs Ngannou was not great, but? Fury is in fighting condition, he has to try and build on that 'Immediately, instead of disappearing for a month or two and then getting back into heavy training' etc.

[ELPacman]

In what way did Fury take Ngannou lightly? 50% is a big percentage. Really consider the things you are saying here mate.

Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury, was being billed as Tyson Fury's biggest EVER boxing event in terms of 'All of the World's attention, would be on the fight. The production and who was in attendance, was something Fury had never experience before in his life'.

Do you honestly think Tyson Fury, would of underestimated the event? Tyson Fury in his own words trained for 12 weeks specifically for this fight.

Now? Fury in the past has stated that most of his training camps were only 6 weeks in duration 'As long as a fighter has been ticking over the gym, then 6 weeks is all I need' Those are the words of Tyson Fury. Infact Tyson Fury stated this earlier this year, before the April 13th supposed fight date with Usyk.

Tyson Fury has actually mentioned before throughout his career, that he only needs 6 weeks to train for a fight 'But most recently he mentioned this again, during the Usyk negotiations'.

The only way I believe Fury could of taken Ngannou lightly is 'By on some level, not really believing that the fight would be difficult'.

When Usain Bolt was at the peak of his abilities, does anyone here think he was petrified of his competition? No. Bolt was still in condition, and still prepared optimally.

Tyson Fury prepared for Ngannou and that is why, the performance has hit team Fury very hard. If Fury had been playing about in training camp, then Fury and his team would not of behaved how they did during the aftermath of the fight.

No post fight press conference, and not many interviews from Fury himself after the fight 'Fury was checked by Ngannou, and it has hit him hard'.

Fury is very smart when it comes to boxing, reading a fight and understanding his competitive landscape. If Tyson Fury would of not trained for Ngannou, and still performed the way he did vs Ngannou 'I actually think Fury would be honest, and tell the media that he was complacent. And I also think Fury would take positives from the performance' i.e He was whacked by Ngannou, but he still got up and won a few rounds here and there.

But I don't think that is the case, Fury has from what information is out there 'Trained, with a good level of intensity for 12 weeks'.

I have seen people saying, well? Sugar Hill Steward only came into the camp during the latter 5 weeks 'Sugar Hill Steward also just like Tyson Fury, has stated that a top fighter should be able to prepare for a fight with a 6 weeks training camp' I believe Steward made this statement, when discussing Fury's up and coming fights.

For me personally, I would expect any half decent boxer who has a good level of work ethic to be training all year round. But of course the intensity will be less compared to a training camp. I don't think there is a specific duration for a training camp, it all depends on the fighter.

The way Tyson Fury speaks is, with the same lingo as a old school fighter. Fury is in some ways a old school fighter in terms of his attitude to I would say his altitude to training. In Fury's mind, as long as he completes his training camp then he is ready. His readiness is not determined by numbers, statistics or any new school methodologies.

I believe under Peter Fury and much of Fury's early career, this is the type of attitude he had.

Note: Tyson Fury should be in heavy training right now, if he is to take advantage of his situation. Fury performance vs Ngannou was not great, but? Fury is in fighting condition, he has to try and build on that 'Immediately, instead of disappearing for a month or two and then getting back into heavy training' etc.

Word. Perhaps 50% was too low. Maybe he was at 70%? I don't know. A lot of folks said it wasn't the same Tyson we're all used to seeing. Granted a lot of that was probably from Ngannou. Did he not properly prepare for him then?