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Originally posted by Sammy7861992 View Post
Fury looked good after being dropped by wilder , fury looked scared and lost and out of ideas after getting dropped by ngannou, U think U sound smart but U are just coming off rude and arrogant, this was a big event with normal people being interested in experts opinions and Eddie hear is a boxing expert whether U like it or not I for one was very interested in his opinion on this just like all fury nuthugger s the likes of U and his team are allowed opinions on the rest of boxing but I don't care about urs whatsoever , now go back in Ur corner and cry like the rest of the fury nutthuggers , ngounno shocked the world Saturday night
And Eddie isn't a boxing expert. He's a salesman trying to use Furys mediocre performance as a way to rebuild his waning golden goose's star.
And to also try and rebuild his own mediocre promotion (of late) but as I pointed out you aren't being objective, you're a hater and your biases aren't allowing you to see it for what it is.
He didn't shock the world at all, he lost a close decision that could’ve gone either way.
I despise Fury and have thought for years Usyk beats him and AJ for that matter until he became gunshy.
He's carefully managed his career, in fact he's micro-managing it to the point of embarrassment and actively doing so to avoid risks.
He wouldn't rematch the one opponent who was actually decent in Wlad and dines out on the Wilder win.
Like I said you’re parroting this “nuthugger” shít because you think it holds some kind of meaning or weight, sadly it doesn’t.
In fact it makes you sound brain dead, because you’ve made an assertion based on nothing but me saying he looked exactly the same in the third fight with Wilder.
Which as I said is objectively true, it isn’t up for debate and neither is Eddie's propensity to name drop fighters his guys will never fight or bítch about other promoters.
Last edited by Boro; 10-31-2023, 09:41 AM.
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No matter what people say, Anthony Joshua has never ever in his entire career 'Performed as bad as Tyson Fury did vs Ngannou'.
Anthony Joshua has zero bad loses on his record. Even during Joshua's loses, you could still see that he was a top-level fighter 'Joshua decked and hurt Ruiz Junior, and fought his way back into the fight. Before being stopped on his feet with a smile on his face. And then he fought in two competitive fights back to back vs Usyk. That is it, those are Joshua's only loses' Andy Ruiz Junior is a World level fighter.
If Tyson Fury was as great as his hardcore fans and media claimed him to be, even if he was under par 'A supposed all time great fighter, like Tyson Fury should of been been able to show flashes of greatness in that type of fight'.
When Mike Tyson fought Francis Botha, after being out of the game for sometime. The fight was not going well for Tyson, but? You could still see flashes of greatness, flashes of ability and power 'And then BAM, Mike Tyson out of nowhere produced a very sophisticated boxing offensive move and knocked out Francis Botha. Botha was a by far greater boxer than Francis Ngannou'.
The point I am trying to make is? Tyson Fury no matter how people try and analyse and make excuses for his performance 'Fury is just not as great as his hardcore fans and media have claimed him to be. Tyson Fury is miles off the level of greatness people have been bestowing upon him'.
Tyson Fury vs Ngannou showed zero flashes of greatness, Ngannou did not skill for skill look out of place 'And all Ngannou did was fight a extremely basic fight, and rely on his physical strength to stay rigid in the fight. Tyson Fury still a so called all-time great boxer, could do completely nothing with him'.
Going back in history we have seen all-time great Heavyweights, blatantly under-par 'Still win those fights, and make it clear. They would fall back on their greater skills, and greatness. Muhammad Ali against lesser opponents achieved this many times before'.
I have seen Tyson Fury's brother state? That he thinks this performance will be good for Fury, because whenever he has a bad performance he follows it up with a great performance. Fury's brother referenced his performance vs John Mcdermott, who by the way was a domestic level fighter.
I disagree with Fury's brother, because I actually believe that Fury has been performing at a low level since possibly 'Wilder vs Fury III'. The third fight vs Wilder was a great fight, a awesome match up. But skill for skill, it was not actually a high level match up.
Both fighters Wilder and Fury, were fatigued from round 2-3 on wards and a mess technically making unforced errors 'It was nowhere near the level of fight in terms of skills, that Usyk vs Joshua I & II were'.
Note: Tyson Fury's true form was unearthed on the weekend, and I have been saying for sometime? When a fighter barely fights at World level, at some point that type of behavior will unearth itself inside the boxing ring. Wilder III, Whyte, Chisora in terms of the actual boxing, they were not high level fights.
Whyte vs Fury, was a nothing fight. Whyte was in the fight before Fury, scored a fluke knock-out 'You could tell it was a fluke knock-out, by the way him and his team celebrated the win'. Whyte by the way was also miles outside his peak, battered and burnt out by the time he eventually fought Tyson Fury 'Anthony Joshua beat a by far better version of Whyte than Fury, a version of Whyte who could actually move inside the boxing ring'.
What Fury does from this point well? He will obviously go into heavy training, that is what you would expect 'But will it be enough for him to actually get himself back to a level were he believes he is miles better than all other Heavyweights. Because I sense that Fury, for the first time ever will be searching for evidence outside of himself to prove this.
Fury has always been a fighter who innately, without any real external evidence believed in his abilities 'Muhammad Ali, Prince Naseem Hamed were the same type of fighters'.
Anthony Joshua in comparison, actually needs to prove to himself with performances of his abilities 'That is why I have also stated, that the longer other Heavyweights just let Joshua do his own thing, and win fights. The more and more momentum he will build back'.
Note: Tyson Fury is the WBC Heavyweight World Champion, if he is to build back he will have to do it at the very highest level etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-31-2023, 10:20 AM.
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Hearn actually made a good point here
, the little things that Fury does, that work with 99 percent of boxers, just didn’t work with Francis Ngannou. Like, the feints, the traps that he’s setting. Whether that was brilliance or naivety [from Ngannou] doesn’t really matter, but I have to give him respect.”
BUT we are always been told that Fury has a high ring IQ and knows how to adjust and how to fight people. He looked scared in this fight and those lunges where he tried to hug Ngannou were embarassing.
Fury got exposed here. The reason we think he is so good is because he rarely fights anyone in the top-10 and his 2 recent best victories came against poorly skilled boxers in Wilder and Whyte. Wilder is a brawler and Whyte is slow. Whyte has knocked Fury down in sparring before too. Fury struggled badly against Wallin who has some boxing skill. And totally avoided Joshua and Usyk who also have good pure boxing skillsLast edited by Roberto Vasquez; 10-31-2023, 10:48 AM.
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