Comments Thread For: Warren: Fury Not Wanting The Fight Was Propaganda Put Out By Usyk's People

[IronDanHamza]

Kiltschko fight was in 2015, and since then he beat Wilder twice.

So he has only really fought two fighters at World & Elite level 'Over a duration of 7 to 8 years'.

There is no argument, it is a objective fact.

Therefore? Fury has never been at the point of his career where people can state that 'Fury has taken on all comers, he has faced and fought every style. And there has been nobody that has challenge him'.

Tyson Fury does not have the resume, or feats of achievement which prove this statement to be true.

Fighters like Floyd Mayweather Junior, Manny Pacquiao, Muhammad Ali 'Just for example? With these fighters, there were points in their career when you could assert the accolade to them as fighters that they had taken on all comers and had over come many challengers' Statistically, and objectively boxing historians can prove this.

Tyson Fury contrary to the popular belief of his hardcore fans, is not that level of fighter 'He is not at that level of greatness, statistically, historically or objectively'.

Note: Tyson Fury currently right now is the number 1 rated Heavyweight fighter, for me because he has to two best wins on his resume in terms of historical magnitude and he is undefeated.

So I rate Fury as a great fighter, but people need to not get carried away or embellish his actual feats of achievements as a Champion. Fury has not dominated the entire Heavyweight Division, he has not taken on all comers and beaten them so nobody can really seriously rate him as if he is that type of fighter.

When hardcore Fury fans speak in this manner 'I just understand that they are backing their fighter, and being highly subjective' etc.

Stop using quotation marks in random places for no reason you retard!

I didn’t even read your moronic wall of text.

If you take out any fighters best two wins and 4 best fights then you could make that same ****** argument for the vast majority of fighters.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Stop using quotation marks in random places for no reason you retard!

I didn’t even read your moronic wall of text.

If you take out any fighters best two wins and 4 best fights then you could make that same ****** argument for the vast majority of fighters.

Sonny Liston twice, George Foreman 'Are two great wins for Muhammad Ali'.

Outside of those great wins, Muhammad Ali has still beaten Joe Frazier Twice, Ken Norton Twice, Ernie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Jerry Quarry Twice, Joe Bugner Twice, Floyd Patterson twice, Henry Cooper, Cleveland Williams, Leon Spinks, Jimmy Young, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo twice, Oscar Bonavena, Archie Moore the list goes on 'Muhammad Ali resume has extreme depth'.

And I am sure there are many other all-time great fighters, who's resume's also have considerably more depth than Tyson Fury's by miles.

Even among great UK fighters, there are many past great fighters who achieved more depth within their resumes than Tyson Fury to date, such as? Carl Froch, Joe Calzaghe, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank Senior, Prince Naseem Hamed, Lennox Lewis.

Note: I get it? Tyson Fury is what is hot right now, and certain folk in today's modern culture get completely carried away with whatever is hot in the moment.

Fury is a great fighter and the rated number 1 Heavyweight. But it is not inconceivable to oppose or critique the overall depth of his resume as a Champion 'Tyson Fury is not a all-time great Heavyweight Champion, he has not achieved that level of greatness as of yet' etc.

[IronDanHamza]

Sonny Liston twice, George Foreman 'Are two great wins for Muhammad Ali'.

Outside of those great wins, Muhammad Ali has still beaten Joe Frazier Twice, Ken Norton Twice, Ernie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Jerry Quarry Twice, Joe Bugner Twice, Floyd Patterson twice, Henry Cooper, Cleveland Williams, Leon Spinks, Jimmy Young, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo twice, Oscar Bonavena, Archie Moore the list goes on 'Muhammad Ali resume has extreme depth'.

And I am sure there are many other all-time great fighters, who's resume's also have considerably more depth than Tyson Fury's by miles.

Even among great UK fighters, there are many past great fighters who achieved more depth within their resumes than Tyson Fury to date, such as? Carl Froch, Joe Calzaghe, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank Senior, Prince Naseem Hamed, Lennox Lewis.

Note: I get it? Tyson Fury is what is hot right now, and certain folk in today's modern culture get completely carried away with whatever is hot in the moment.

Fury is a great fighter and the rated number 1 Heavyweight. But it is not inconceivable to oppose or critique the overall depth of his resume as a Champion 'Tyson Fury is not a all-time great Heavyweight Champion, he has not achieved that level of greatness as of yet' etc.

Mate stop putting random quotation marks on random words for no reason you look like a moron.

I don’t care if there’s a tiny % of fighters that you can remove their 4 best wins and they still have a good resume. It’s still a ****** argument to say “fighter A doesn’t have a strong resume outside of the 4 elite wins he’s got.”

If you do that to almost any fighter their resume will not be strong.