Floyd has lw power at ww FACT

[Al Haymon]

joto had 925 ppv buy for the Mayorga fight. Check your iri on that one Al. If Floyd is the cash cow how come he can't fight a lesser known opponent and draw like joto. He is the cash cow, right?

You do realize that everyone sells big numbers with Mayorga...right? You know why? because mayorga knows his role. His job is to make a big stink, provide some great quotes, be HILARIOUS at the press conferences...and to lose.

Well, everybody except Shane.

Mayorga is a terrific opponent for a PPV. Please check your figures.


Question: do you even know what IRI is? You've used it incorrectly a couple of times now.

[PRINCSHERPY]

FLOYD has no power.

CALDERON is bigger puncher then him.

[C.Y.]

Shane Mosley gets his power from steroids

[Al Haymon]

All I am saying is that a passed his prime Oscar did close to 500k with a very old 'Yory Boy' Campass. Then Floyd shoud be able to do the same type of numbers with the likes of Collazo and fighters of that ilk. What is wrong with that statement?

What's wrong with that statement? Several things

1) floyd is not Oscar. Floyd took the mantle FROM Oscar. Floyd is NOW the "ppv king', or whatever

2) Floyd could sell 400K vs collazo. But why sell 400K vs collazo when you can sell 1.2 million vs a bigger name opponent? HBO reduced the NUMBER of PPV's so that the INDIVIDUAL ppv's would do higher volume.

3) Oscar was past his prime for yory boy?! How short was Oscar's prime exactly?! Didn't Oscar 'beat" Shane after he fought Campos?

[IMDAZED]

What's wrong with that statement? Several things

1) floyd is not Oscar. Floyd took the mantle FROM Oscar. Floyd is NOW the "ppv king', or whatever

2) Floyd could sell 400K vs collazo. But why sell 400K vs collazo when you can sell 1.2 million vs a bigger name opponent? HBO reduced the NUMBER of PPV's so that the INDIVIDUAL ppv's would do higher volume.

3) Oscar was past his prime for yory boy?! How short was Oscar's prime exactly?! Didn't Oscar 'beat" Shane after he fought Campos?

Hahahaha @ point 3. Oscar had slowed but if anyone was faded it was poor Yori Boy.

[Easy-E]

Look at his resume and you'll see that as Floyd started moving up the divisions most of his best work have come against small jww or former lws. At ww Floyd has never KO'd anyone that could be considered close to even the Ring magazines top 10. The man hasn't carried his power which is why Mosley and Cotto both true ww would have massive advantages if Floyd backed up his mouth and fought either or both.

Floyd stopped Hatton, who was #8 in the Rings p4p rankings.
You lose.

[lparm]

You do realize that everyone sells big numbers with Mayorga...right? You know why? because mayorga knows his role. His job is to make a big stink, provide some great quotes, be HILARIOUS at the press conferences...and to lose.

Well, everybody except Shane.

Mayorga is a terrific opponent for a PPV. Please check your figures.


Question: do you even know what IRI is? You've used it incorrectly a couple of times now.

Check your iri for those numbers brah joto draws more than Floyd against weaker opponents.

[lparm]

Floyd stopped Hatton, who was #8 in the Rings p4p rankings.
You lose.

Hatton was a jww dumbass.

[Al Haymon]

Check your iri for those numbers brah joto draws more than Floyd against weaker opponents.

Cheers.

.

[jrosales13]

Sigh.

I'm a bit disappointed in your one-sided hate, so I'm going to give up.

Quite simply, it takes two. It takes a compelling STORY to sell a fight. Any fight. Do you think Oscar-Forbes was non-PPV because Oscar really and genuinely out of the goodness of his heart wanted to "donate" a fight to the fans? Seriously?
Floyd is a draw. A very big draw. You can ignore it, or deny it. That's fine. It doesn't change the reality, or what every promoter and TV executive knows. Based on the absence of data in your posts, i can tell that you are not in/related to the business and that's cool. You are a passionate fan. But you are not posting from the passionate fan perspective; you are posting business opinions. And i would respectfully counsel you not to do that because your perspectives are not grounded in data.

Oscar was smart with regards to who he chose to fight: Bernard, vargas, mayorga, floyd, pacquiao. He chose other guys who are either charismatic, or have proven commercial appeal. That is the smart thing to do.

That is also what Floyd did. Sure, Floyd could have had 400K fans tune in to watch him slap collazo for 12 rounds. But what is the point in going to training camp and busting your butt, when you can slap Marquez for 12 rounds and make 3x the money.

You have a job. Do you mean to tell me that if your boss walks in and offers you 3x your salary, that you will turn it down? Really?

I can post the opinions of people who are INSIDE the industry regarding Mr. Mayweather's commercial viability. But something tells me that your mind is already made up, and I will spare us both the time. I will allow you to convince yourself that Floyd can't sell a fight.

Cheers, mate. Best to you.

side note: You just said that a "passed prime" Oscar beat Shane Mosley.

1 I never mentioned Oscar PPV #'s with Forbes. Main reason cuz it wasn't PPV.

2. I didn't mentioned Oscar PPV #'s with Mayorga, Hopkins, Vargas, Floyd, or Pac. Cuz their opponents brought fans to the table.

3. Oscar did close to 500k with 'Yory Boy' Campas comparison. I guess Campas was charismatic and had commercial appeal.

4. I am not ignoring or denying Floyd popularity? You made a statemen that a fight with Floyd-Collazo could not sell. I should do at least 400k buy. That should be counted a success. Wasn't people in the business predicting Floyd-JMM 400-500k buys?. So all I said if Floyd should be able to do 400k against anybody. Cuz I accept him as a huge draw. I only said IF he can't do 400k by himself. Then he is not draw that he and his fans think he is. How is that hate? Do you not agree with that?

5. Did you honeslty believe that he would have a million buys with JMM? Honestly now did you believe that going in? And, what number of buys were you guessing going in? Going into that event I thought he could made similar profit with Collazo. But, not only that getting way more respect. However, you right with million PPV buys. Floyd did make way more money. But, I am talking about going into the event. Honest opinion. Also I think he would of done just the same or maybe even more fighting Mosley. Plus would of gotten credit and respect.

6. I never said a passed his prime Oscar beat Mosley. Since I had Mosley winning that fight. Do not assume anything buddy.