Floyd has lw power at ww FACT

[Al Haymon]

Ok Al common sense question.

Would you (I mean the poster Al Haymon) pay $55 for a fight when you (Al Haymon) could get that exact same fight for $25?

Answer that question. Don't avoid it. If you avoid I will assume you're a ***** that suckles on Floyds nuts too much to see the truth. So don't be a gutless piece of **** phoney. Please, answer that question.

The obvious answer will prove my point that the rebates helped bump the numbers big time.

I will tell you: i am buying Mayweather-marquez whether i get the Tecate promotion or not. The vast majority of people did not even know about the Tecate promotion. Most of the posters on here did not know.


You are acting like the Tecate promotion was the reason that this fight did 1.2 (i hear a rollup) million buys. You are saying "big time". WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS*. You haven't told me if that is 4% or 40%.

But.... If i go to any store, shop whatever. And the EXACT same two items are next to each other. One for $25, and the other for $50. i'm buying the $25, I have a modicum of common sense.

* fair warning. I have an IRI subscription. If you give me fake numbers, i will call you out on it.



Also, when I talk to you, i speak respectfully. I require the same. Don't do that.

[jrosales13]

You say that without any information to back it up. And then when you are presented with information that shows he tried to get fights, you ignore it.

I have never ignored anything. And, you're a Mayweather fan and you don't know about his history? At 130 Casamayor wanted to fight him. Freitas was also willing. But, Casamayor WANTED to fight for sure. But, Floyd chose Carlos Hernandez. But, I don't really blame Floyd for that fight not happening cuz Floyd said Casamayor is a Showtime fighter and I am an HBO fighter. Which is true lets move on.

At 135 after JLC. Spadafora was calling him out. Stevie Johnston wanted to fight, even Leo Dorin was willing to take it. Yet he chose to fight 2 lesser fighters in Ndou and Sosa?

At 140, Vivian Harris was calling him out, Junior Witter was calling him out yet he chose Bruseles who? and a worn out Gatti?

At 147 Margarito wanted to fight him. Yet he chose Mitchell? Judah? who was coming off a loss to a bum. And the weakest WW champion of all time Baldomir. But, I would forgive Baldomir cuz it was for a lineage title. However, Baldomir is an easier fight than Margarito.

At 154? I remember hearing somethin about Spinks calling him out. But, he fought an old Oscar, which ok is for the money, but, there was tougher fights at 154

Back down at 147. Shane wanted to fight him. You know Williams was willing to fight him. Yet he chose an easier fight with Hatton

Comes back from a lay and fight JMM at 147. When there was 20 other WW who are better than JMM and was willing to fight him. But, he chose JMM?

He has done this throughout his whole career is nothing new. And, you know that bro.

[lparm]

I will tell you: i am buying Mayweather-marquez whether i get the Tecate promotion or not. The vast majority of people did not even know about the Tecate promotion. Most of the posters on here did not know.


You are acting like the Tecate promotion was the reason that this fight did 1.2 (i hear a rollup) million buys. You are saying "big time". WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS*. You haven't told me if that is 4% or 40%.

But.... If i go to any store, shop whatever. And the EXACT same two items are next to each other. One for $25, and the other for $50. i'm buying the $25, I have a modicum of common sense.

* fair warning. I have an IRI subscription. If you give me fake numbers, i will call you out on it.



Also, when I talk toy you, i speak respectfully. I require the same. Don't do that.

So you just proved that for all the people that knew about the tecate promotion helped bump the numbers because of the lower price. You just proved it yourself the reduced cost helped increase the buyrate so why don't you use your iri subscription to think of a way to disprove yourself.

[jrosales13]

To me, These are not "events". And HBO has zero interest in those.

mayweather- quintana
mayweather-collazo
mayweather - karass

Isn't Lujan a JMW on his way to MW?!

How do i sell a FMJ-Quintana fight? Quintana was KO'd in one round by Williams and in five rounds by Cotto. (no, i saw the 1st williams fight)

Collazo had been beaten by the guy Floyd KO'd last time out. and was beaten by Shane.

How do i sell those fights? Do you think Floyd came back for $3 million paydays? C'mon, son.

Please recognize that this is a business as well as a sport. And you are a knowledgeable, hardcore fan that knows 10x what the casual fan knows. How do I promote a Mayweather-Collazo 24/7? That hurts my ears.

Why can't you sell that PPV. Floyd is a draw right? He is a cash cow right? I mean it could do at least 400k on PPV wouldn't it? that would be a success and you didn't to pay them what you paid for JMM. I mean of course it would sell. Cuz Floyd is the mr PPV. I mean a passed his prime Oscar and an old Yory Boy Campass sold what 500K? I know it was more than 400k. I mean Floyd could do that by himself right? And, you add Collazo or Quintana and you get the Puerto ricans to but the PPV. That would do like 500k. If its againt Soto Karrass. You would have the Mexicans buying it.

In honestly if he is the draw, the cash cow, that he and his fans thinks he is then he should of done that with no problem. I know Oscar would of. Unless his high PPV numbers is due cuz of what his fans bringing in? Unless he is piggy backing his opponents fan base to get those PPV? And, if that's the case then he is not really the big draw. His opponents are the big draw.

[Kalion]

Floyd is like RJ. He has very underrated power. You have to realize that Floyd is moreso pot shotting at WW so its not like he gets to throw a ton of shots to stop guys with. I think his power is more than fine enough to make guys respect him, e****aly when you combine it with his accuracy. Really, you guys act like he's had 50 fights at WW. What are you really basing this off of? He stopped Mitchell, he stopped Hatton. He didnt stop JMM but Marquez was fighting very cautious and defensive. You could also tell that Floyd was worried about Juan's countering ability. He didnt stop Baldy but he was outweighed by 17 pounds in the ring and no one stops Baldy. He didnt stop Zab but its harder to stop a Southpaw and he may have stopped him if it wasnt for the low blows.

Either way, that doesnt mean he cant beat guys. Look at Sweet Pea. You act like Floyd is a brawler or a power guy. He doesnt depend on power. He's a pure boxer. You think he cares about winning a decision. He's still snapping all these guys head back so I dont see it as a problem

Someone has common sense.

[jrosales13]

I will tell you: i am buying Mayweather-marquez whether i get the Tecate promotion or not. The vast majority of people did not even know about the Tecate promotion. Most of the posters on here did not know.


You are acting like the Tecate promotion was the reason that this fight did 1.2 (i hear a rollup) million buys. You are saying "big time". WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS*. You haven't told me if that is 4% or 40%.

But.... If i go to any store, shop whatever. And the EXACT same two items are next to each other. One for $25, and the other for $50. i'm buying the $25, I have a modicum of common sense.

* fair warning. I have an IRI subscription. If you give me fake numbers, i will call you out on it.



Also, when I talk to you, i speak respectfully. I require the same. Don't do that.

Yes they did. They promoted the hell out of that promotions. And, the whole rebate was on commercials. writers mentioned it on their articles. PPL knew. I am not saying that is why they a million buys? Cuz I don't know how many ppl used the rebate. But, ppl knew.

[lparm]

Why can't you sell that PPV. Floyd is a draw right? He is a cash cow right? I mean it could do at least 400k on PPV wouldn't it? that would be a success and you didn't to pay them what you paid for JMM. I mean of course it would sell. Cuz Floyd is the mr PPV. I mean a passed his prime Oscar and an old Yory Boy Campass sold what 500K? I know it was more than 400k. I mean Floyd could do that by himself right? And, you add Collazo or Quintana and you get the Puerto ricans to but the PPV. That would do like 500k. If its againt Soto Karrass. You would have the Mexicans buying it.

In honestly if he is the draw, the cash cow, that he and his friends thinks he is then he should of done that with no problem. I know Oscar would of. Unless his high PPV numbers is due cuz of what his fans bringing in? Unless he is piggy backing his opponents fan base to get those PPV? And, if that's the case then he is not really the big draw. His opponents are the big draw.

joto had 925 ppv buy for the Mayorga fight. Check your iri on that one Al. If Floyd is the cash cow how come he can't fight a lesser known opponent and draw like joto. He is the cash cow, right?

[Kalion]

joto had 925 ppv buy for the Mayorga fight. Check your iri on that one Al. If Floyd is the cash cow how come he can't fight a lesser known opponent and draw like joto. He is the cash cow, right?

Who in the past 5 or so years has more ppv buys than PBF that is still actively boxing? If you cant answer this question, end of discussion. Rather you like it or not, hes the biggest draw in boxing right now. No one is saying PAC and cotto are not draws but they are not on the same level as floyd. No way you can deny or spin that.

[lparm]

Who in the past 5 or so years has more ppv buys than PBF that is still actively boxing? If you cant answer this question, end of discussion. Rather you like it or not, hes the biggest draw in boxing right now. No one is saying PAC and cotto are not draws but they are not on the same level as floyd. No way you can deny or spin that.

What do you mean or so?

Holyfield is still active and he has more overall buys than Floyd. (waiting for Al to check his iri on that one LOL)

[Kalion]

What do you mean or so?

Holyfield is still active and he has more overall buys than Floyd. (waiting for Al to check his iri on that one LOL)

Since his fight with gatti count up his ppv buys then you can also divide it by number of fights to see who hs the highest amount of buys and the highest avg per bout. tell me who has more in the same time frame. If there is someone with more than that man is the ppv king/cash cow if it is however him then he is. So if indeed he is stop with all the hyothetical bull**** matchups and reasons why he should be able to fight any bum and produce great numbers, as a way to take that title away from him.