The USA isn't producing any quality heavyweights, cruiser weights, light heavyweights, or middle weights?

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  • tomhawq
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    #41
    It might be good for US heavyweights to start loitering around the UK boxing premises as most HW fights are happening in that country. There's nothing to hope for here.

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      #42
      Originally posted by tomhawq
      It might be good for US heavyweights to start loitering around the UK boxing premises as most HW fights are happening in that country. There's nothing to hope for here.
      Joseph Parker would be a step up fight for Jared Anderson or Frank Sanchez.

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        #43
        Jermall Charlo is still WBC middleweight champion. He is from the USA.

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          #44
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Jermall Charlo is still WBC middleweight champion. He is from the USA.
          And he clear of legal troubles for now. He is not that good though, but from Thugsville, Texas in USA.




          According to TMZ Sports, prosecutors plan on dropping the felony charge against Charlo after he was accused of assaulting a family member during an incident last September in Fort Bend County, Texas. He was arrestedand charged with felony assault in February.
          While Charlo can now put his legal issues behind him, his twin brother Jermell is still facing a misdemeanor charge of making a *********ic threat related to the case. Jermell Charlo, who is the undisputed light middleweight champion, is scheduled for a court hearing later this month.
          https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...0in%20February.
          Last edited by Dr. Z; 10-28-2023, 04:29 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dr. Z

            And he clear of legal troubles for now. He is not that good though, but from Thugsville, Texas in USA.







            https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...0in%20February.
            He’s the best and most proven out of all the current beltholders, when he’s active and right in the head.

            So you have to take middleweight off your list.

            Also, Deontay Wilder is still the #3 best heavyweight in the world. With Jared Anderson as an up and coming contender and Ricardo Torrez Jr as a very promising prospect, both with Top Rank which is one of the top promotional companies in the world.

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            • Dr. Z
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              #46
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              He’s the best and most proven out of all the current beltholders, when he’s active and right in the head.

              So you have to take middleweight off your list.

              Also, Deontay Wilder is still the #3 best heavyweight in the world. With Jared Anderson as an up and coming contender and Ricardo Torrez Jr as a very promising prospect, both with Top Rank which is one of the top promotional companies in the world.
              Wilder is a fraud and has been in-active for over a year. Charlo is active for now, but I'd bet on the boys in blue to halt him.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dr. Z

                Wilder is a fraud and has been in-active for over a year. Charlo is active for now, but I'd bet on the boys in blue to halt him.
                Nevertheless, there is Tyson Fury. Oleksander Usyk. Then Deontay Wilder.

                That is the current pecking order at heavyweight.

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                • messi807
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by YGriffith

                  The USA at this point is the mecca of boxing because it's the only nation (now one of two) to overcharge the fans and they'll just eat it up, nowhere in the world would anyone pay 89 usd to watch boxing, same with tickets, they are overpriced.

                  Now with KSA throwing money at sports for political reason, it's only a matter of time till they become the mecca of boxing.

                  Boxing is pretty popular in the UK with local shows that fans follow from what i can see, cant be said about the US.
                  The U.S stars will start doing more shows in Saudi Arabia. It’s already happened. Wherever the talent is (U.S boxers) they’ll go to the Mecca whether it’s Saudi or Vegas my friend.

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown

                    That could be said for most countries. There's much bigger sports than boxing in many countries with quality fighters...so it's no excuse.

                    The truth is the higher weight classes stopped being dominated by USA once the ex soviet union countries could enter pro boxing. It only took one generation of ex Soviet kids to get to grips with pro boxing and they pretty much took over the higher weight classes.

                    Of course British fighters like Fury and AJ have had good heavyweight success in recent years, but the reality is you can pretty much pinpoint the decline of American boxing in higher weight divisions with the emergence of ex Soviet countries entering pro boxing.

                    The truth is Eastern Euros/Central Asian men are generally much tougher than Americans.

                    USA still has success in lower divisions but they're barely men, they're the size of teenage girls. Its basically a midget sideshow.
                    That is not the case in most countries.

                    The US has like 10 different popular sports to split our athletes

                    Most of the countries that produce great boxers usually have boxing as one of the top 1 or 2 sports in the country.

                    Like Mexico, it's basically soccer or boxing.

                    Same thing with most of Latin America, soccer or boxing.

                    In America, there's football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf, NASCAR, track & field, & now UFC.

                    All these sports on any given day can have just as big of a profile as boxing.

                    I'm not seeing Eastern Europeans just dominating American boxers.

                    I just don't see American kids wanting to box anymore because there's easier ways for them to get paid
                    Last edited by The D3vil; 10-29-2023, 03:30 AM.

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                    • Ry92
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                      #50
                      because we have the nfl, nba, mlb, and ufc. other countries dont get it made like the usa does market wise nor media wise. if you a 6'5 american chances are your playing football or basketball getting a college scholarship & if your avg can make 15m a year luke kennard ect. you gotta be elite of the elite or fight jake paul for such money in boxing

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