The USA isn't producing any quality heavyweights, cruiser weights, light heavyweights, or middle weights?

[JakeTheBoxer]

the division is really weak outside the top 4.

Not sure about that, but the main problem is, top 20 guys don`t fight each other.

[Dr. Z]

I doubt Anderson ever reaches the very top but who knows how the cards will fall, Charles Martin became HW Champion by default for example, the division is really weak outside the top 4.

I’m not really interested in your list tbh. There aren’t 10 HW prospects to care about.

You don't watch them. So be it. If anything such a list will give you " a player hating " edge on the talented prospects. Might that interest you?

Sorry ROID fighter's like say Jerell Miller, Tony Yoka did not make the cut. You won't find any ROID users the size of say James Toney or Roy Jones on the list either. If they were why do I think you would have a greater interest in it?

I will update this list on q4 2023. This list is loaded with very good products some if which just turned pro and are not even on it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/31535564-dr-z-s-top-15-heavyweight-prospects/page5#post31643748

[Zaroku]

Haha yup this. Boxing's always been the 7th or 8th most popular sport in the U.S.

https://aeonledlighting.com/2023/05/...opular-sports/


1. Football


American football is undoubtedly the most popular sport in America. From the National Football League (NFL) Draft to the Superbowl, football brings in over 100 million annual television viewers. In addition to being the biggest sport in America, it’s the 9th most popular sport worldwide.

2. Basketball


Second only to football in America is basketball. For over a century, basketball has captivated fans from collegiate to professional levels. The annual NCAA March Madness averaged 8.68 million viewers in 2023, while the NBA averaged 1.6 million.

3. Baseball


Known as America’s favorite pastime, baseball is the third most popular sport in America. Major League Baseball (MLB) brought in an average of 96,000 viewers per game in 2022, and the 2022 World Series topped all primetime television for the seventh straight year, averaging 12,023,000 viewers.

4. Soccer


One of the most popular sports in the world, soccer, is America’s fourth most popular sport. Major League Soccer (MLS) averaged 309,000 viewers for the 2022 season, but the sport’s popularity extends well beyond the MLS.

5. Hockey


Ice hockey is another popular sport in America, enjoyed by fans at the collegiate, semi-professional, and professional levels, the National Hockey League (NHL). The NHL Stanley Cup garnered an average of 4.6 million viewers in 2022.

6. Tennis


Tennis, the sixth most popular sport in America, has increased in popularity in recent years. Much of this can be attributed to the rise of American tennis athletes dominated on the global tennis scene, making players like Serena Williams and Andre Agassi some of the biggest names in sports.

7. Golf


Golf is one sport in America that fans enjoy both as players and spectators. Many Americans head out for a round of golf for leisure, and players like Tiger Woods helped bring the sport’s popularity to its current status.

8. Boxing


Boxing is a fan favorite for attending in person or tuning in on television and streaming services. An average of 8,000 people attend each event.

Bro, I think you left off Monster Trucks, NASCAR, and competitive eating?

Maybe not competitive eating where skinny j dudes sallow lots of hot dogs…. Only butler can give them a challenge!

[Spray_resistant]

Younger guys are too busy wearing makeup and making sure their filters are right so their pics look pretty. These activities would consume the time needed to participate in combat sports where no one cares about your feelings.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Not sure about that, but the main problem is, top 20 guys don`t fight each other.

The 5th best guy is a 40 year old with kidney problems.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You don't watch them. So be it. If anything such a list will give you " a player hating " edge on the talented prospects. Might that interest you?

Sorry ROID fighter's like say Jerell Miller, Tony Yoka did not make the cut. You won't find any ROID users the size of say James Toney or Roy Jones on the list either. If they were why do I think you would have a greater interest in it?

I will update this list on q4 2023. This list is loaded with very good products some if which just turned pro and are not even on it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...5#post31643748

Your opinion isn’t relevant though.

Let me guess? Hrgovic is #1?

I’ll stick to Ring Magazine, TBRB, ESPN etc for the lists. Not some fanboy on the boxingscene forum.

[Dr. Z]

Your opinion isn’t relevant though.

Let me guess? Hrgovic is #1?

I’ll stick to Ring Magazine, TBRB, ESPN etc for the lists. Not some fanboy on the boxingscene forum.

Hrgovic is in Ring Magazine's top 10 ( currently at #6 ) and has been for 105 weeks. You can check EPSN as well. Nice of you to play long. I am rating heavyweight prospects who 1 ) are undefeated, 2) haven'y fought for the title. Hrgrovic is set to graduate in his next fight for the IBF world title so he won't be #1 for long.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Hrgovic is in Ring Magazine's top 10 ( currently at #6 ) and has been for 105 weeks. You can check EPSN as well. Nice of you to play long. I am rating heavyweight prospects who 1 ) are undefeated, 2) haven'y fought for the title. Hrgrovic is set to graduate in his next fight for the IBF world title so he won't be #1 for long.

As I said I’ll stick to Ring, TBRB, ESPN etc. Opinions that matter.

Hrgovic being #6 just corroborates my point about the division being weak outside the consensus top 4.

[Dr. Z]

RJJ-94-02=GOAT

As I said I’ll stick to Ring, TBRB, ESPN etc. Opinions that matter.

Hrgovic being #6 just corroborates my point about the division being weak outside the consensus top 4.

Top 4 men in ring magazine are not prospects. Ring magazine as far as I know does not rank as many prospects as I do and is often lacking detail if/when they do.

But okay. Hrgovic will be top 4 in ring magazine, your gold standard sometime in 2024- 2025. Wanna bet?

You have some boxing knowledge I think. More than your typical hater.

I think the division has many good projects. But you're not wrong saying the men who ring magazine ranks are old, inactive, and do not fight enough in general. Give it a year or two, these men will be dropped from the rankings of your opinions that matter.

[YGriffith]

The future stars at lightweight, light welterweight, welterweight and super welterweight trump any other nation in all combined weight classes is what you failed to mention. Along with Latin-American talent. USA media covers all boxers.. not just American born boxers. It’ll continue to be the Mecca for boxing. What’s happening with boxing in Mexico & the UK?

The USA at this point is the mecca of boxing because it's the only nation (now one of two) to overcharge the fans and they'll just eat it up, nowhere in the world would anyone pay 89 usd to watch boxing, same with tickets, they are overpriced.

Now with KSA throwing money at sports for political reason, it's only a matter of time till they become the mecca of boxing.

Boxing is pretty popular in the UK with local shows that fans follow from what i can see, cant be said about the US.