Comments Thread For: Fury vs. Ngannou Pits Boxing vs. MMA Once Again

[TMLT87]

Normally I would agree. Open the rules up to the line in the sand drawn by MMA universal rules, and make the boxer do the crash course for what changes occur when you do that, ala Ray Mercer vs. X2 UFC champion Tim Sylvia. Obviously, even that may not hold the boxing specialist back, the MMA toolbox notwithstanding. But it usually will.
fighters are best at the rules they train for, and the best under any rules set are normally the ones who've trained for them the most.

But in this case, Ngannou was training to become a boxer for a much longer period than the time he used to tack on some Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle wrestling & Submissions grappling/BJJ before turningpro in MMA.
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So in effect, Ngannou was originally a Boxer who stepped into MMA, and now, he's using his dominant career in MMA as a fame and financial stepping stone back into boxing.

Further proof that all fighters are cut from the same cloth. The difference is simply what you choose to train for at the moment.

With his power, athleticism, solid dedication and fighter's disposition, it's easy to imagine that if Ngannou had stuck to boxing he'd have been good. But he's wasted his time for peanuts in a sport for those who don't have the standup fighting gifts he has, and now; it's too little, too late.
Fury will play with him for 3 or 4 rounds and drop him.

Great undercard though. On it, I'm looking for one pretty big upset.

Ngannou aint exactly ****ing Karelin but he has definitely developed his wrestling over the years. It was what saved him against Gane and its what allowed him to beat Stipe the second time around.

I think he most likely made the right choice going to MMA. He has power and athleticism but was he ever going to be reaching a level where he was getting Fury and AJ levels of money and exposure? I doubt it. Its not like France is some massive boxing hotbed and promotional powerhouse like the US and UK either.

Yeah the undercard is alright. Should have been Makhmudov/Bakole though. In fact either of those two would have been a perfectly good opponent for Fury.

[Liondw]

It's this simple to explain, mma and boxing are two very different sports.

Both combat, yes, some strikes are the same, but other strike are different, with kicking and grappling.

As I just noticed the other headline, no offence, but Mike Tyson has a better chance of knocking Fury out than Ngannou. We know Ngannou hits hard, but for boxing, he seems too slow, although he can offset an opponent's superior speed with timing.

Happy for Francis for the life changing financial benefits he's getting. His chances of winning the fight are just really low, because he's a boxing novice up against the best heavyweight boxer on earth.

[Monty Fisto]

Everyone has a plan until they're trained by Mike Tyson to daydream their muscles stronger. Then they realise they have no chance.

[low blows]

And once again its in a boxing match. Pretty one sided crossover situation. MMA fight would be more meaningful because it doesnt outright ban the majority of one competitors skillset.

The fight should have hybrid rules similar to what Tommy Morrison in his last pro fight. I know if the fight allowed true dirty boxing with no kicks and Fury would probably win but it wouldn't be as easy as this fight should be.

[low blows]

Normally I would agree. Open the rules up to the line in the sand drawn by MMA universal rules, and make the boxer do the crash course for what changes occur when you do that, ala Ray Mercer vs. X2 UFC champion Tim Sylvia. Obviously, even that may not hold the boxing specialist back, the MMA toolbox notwithstanding. But it usually will.
fighters are best at the rules they train for, and the best under any rules set are normally the ones who've trained for them the most.

But in this case, Ngannou was training to become a boxer for a much longer period than the time he used to tack on some Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle wrestling & Submissions grappling/BJJ before turningpro in MMA.
.
So in effect, Ngannou was originally a Boxer who stepped into MMA, and now, he's using his dominant career in MMA as a fame and financial stepping stone back into boxing.

Further proof that all fighters are cut from the same cloth. The difference is simply what you choose to train for at the moment.

With his power, athleticism, solid dedication and fighter's disposition, it's easy to imagine that if Ngannou had stuck to boxing he'd have been good. But he's wasted his time for peanuts in a sport for those who don't have the standup fighting gifts he has, and now; it's too little, too late.
Fury will play with him for 3 or 4 rounds and drop him.

Great undercard though. On it, I'm looking for one pretty big upset.

It was peanuts for a heavyweight champion but what he made in his championship fights was more than 99.99 percent of pro boxers and 90+ top 10 heavyweights that don't win the championship.

Let's put it this way Otto Wallin hasn't made more than Ngannou and he has been a top 10 fighter for years.