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  • davef
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    #41
    Although they aren't the same quality pictures he does look dead there lol

    But it don't matter Spence doesn't have the skills to beat Crawford he is too one dimensional. It works vs B+ fighters but Crawford beats any version of Spence

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      #42
      Prime example of a "Keep crying" thread. Spence got outclassed. He can talk all he wants about timing, and you can make things up about his health, but he lost comprehensively to the better man. If he were injured or faded, etc, you'd see uncharacteristically low output. But he was still throwing averages of 50+ punches per round, and had fight high output in round 6. That's not what it looks like when someone is injured or not at their best. The issue was that Crawford was landing power punches at 50-75% rate, and he was doing so because he did his homework and knew what Spence's style was. That piston jab, for example, was a new tool for Crawford that really shut Spence down. He usually gets his offense going behind his own jab, and Crawford shut that down.

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        #43
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
        Prime example of a "Keep crying" thread. Spence got outclassed. He can talk all he wants about timing, and you can make things up about his health, but he lost comprehensively to the better man. If he were injured or faded, etc, you'd see uncharacteristically low output. But he was still throwing averages of 50+ punches per round, and had fight high output in round 6. That's not what it looks like when someone is injured or not at their best. The issue was that Crawford was landing power punches at 50-75% rate, and he was doing so because he did his homework and knew what Spence's style was. That piston jab, for example, was a new tool for Crawford that really shut Spence down. He usually gets his offense going behind his own jab, and Crawford shut that down.
        Maybe Spence would have got slightly less of a beating five years ago but he chose to delay the fight by collecting the other belts, "cross the street", etc.

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          #44
          Spence wasn't what we thought he was that night. 50% believe it was bud who made spence not look his normal self? But bud don't usually look spectacular, rather slowly figures you out. Bud didn't dominate brook for example up until he hurt brook

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            #45
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Spence wasn't what we thought he was that night. 50% believe it was bud who made spence not look his normal self? But bud don't usually look spectacular, rather slowly figures you out. Bud didn't dominate brook for example up until he hurt brook
            More like Spence's usual self didn't look good against Bud, and Bud completely neutralized him.

            Bud knew this was his defining fight. He did his homework. Watch some tape and see how Spence gets his offense going. He's called a basic fighter because his style is essentially an application of the basics. He almost always begins his offense with at least one, often more jabs. If he can't land that jab or create an opening, he resets. Look at the difference between how that worked with Ugas, and Porter, whose gameplan was to stay low and try to swarm underneath. Porter gave Spence a very hard time since he was also able to mitigate the threat of the jab.

            Then take Crawford's response. He developed a powerful jab that he loaded up like a piston to turn it into a power shot. He dropped Spence with it at the end of Rd 2, and about midway through 4 is another great example of how he used it to interrupt Spence's offense by punching with Spence. He did that throughout the fight. That first jab would land and then Crawford would immediately counter back, often with a punch angled to prevent further offense.

            Another thing Spence likes to do is pin his opponents in the corner or against the ropes and flurry punches, as he tried to do at the beginning of Rd 3. Bud used that as an opportunity to counter, with uppercuts thrown in the middle of the flurry to back Spence off, then popping forward to smother further offense. Again, notice the timing. Other opponents wait for an opening in between punches or wait for the flurry to end. Bud punches with Spence. Not too many people have the skill to punch WITH their opponents.

            Those same patterns of offense play out in all of Spence's fights. Neutralize those, and Spence doesn't look very special.

            A lot of the issue is that Spence just doesn't have anything in his style to adjust when he loses his offense. It ended up being a really difficult stylistic matchup for him. A possible change he could make in the rematch would be to work on taking his head off line in the middle of his combos so he's not as ripe for that counter, but Bud is just faster than him and better able to adapt mid fight. I don't really see it being possible for him to do much better in the rematch unless Bud has an off night, which is always possible.

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            • HandsofIron
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              #46
              Originally posted by sbbigmike

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              Drained bro

              Errol a junkie he has drunk and pill face...he admitted to be addicted to opioids post accident so wasted that he would show up to court high during his mike Tyson interview that's contempt jail type shyt...he needed help rather than to be fighting
              Dam, drained and faded, didn't realize it was that bad.

              It's like I said man, Team Spence should of cancelled the fight and moved up to 154 if was that bad.

              Now Spence is potentially, ruined forever as a top level fighter.

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                #47
                Originally posted by HandsofIron

                Dam, drained and faded, didn't realize it was that bad.

                It's like I said man, Team Spence should of cancelled the fight and moved up to 154 if was that bad.

                Now Spence is potentially, ruined forever as a top level fighter.
                Plus he has a demonic chikk, a chikk that threatened to walk out with TC....a chick recording him drugged this was during the failed negotiation last yr, someone possibly blackmailing him

                https://********/6AHPZK4JZtc?si=alQDCPDRV6nA_MnY

                Chikk said she ran into him, so she was one of his car accidents, making fun of him in his low state, while you here coke snorts at the end...

                Instead of being focused on TC he had relationship issues he was focused on taking his demon to Dubai....or du what lol


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                • sbbigmike
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by sbbigmike
                  Plus he has a demonic chikk, a chikk that threatened to walk out with TC....a chick recording him drugged this was during the failed negotiation last yr, someone possibly blackmailing him

                  https://********/6AHPZK4JZtc?si=alQDCPDRV6nA_MnY

                  Chikk said she ran into him, so she was one of his car accidents, making fun of him in his low state, while you here coke snorts at the end...

                  Instead of being focused on TC he had relationship issues he was focused on taking his demon to Dubai....or du what lol

                  Shame too because errol is hard to hate...truth is boy has a hardcore drug issue even after the fight after his wounds healed he still had drunk face at 180 pounds in du what with his demon girlfriend


                  listen to his mike Tyson interview it was a cry for help and Tyson saw himself in errol...the whole interview was about drugs, separating from the homies, Tyson telling him not to get into street fights and put your life and career in jeopardy, lectured him on woman issues and all...y'all just sleeping

                  The man needed prayer, if errol planned on boxing after his accident no way his team would tell him continue at 147, to drain down on a 70% body, with his brain on scrambled eggs outside his drug/alcohol problems
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by sbbigmike
                    Plus he has a demonic chikk, a chikk that threatened to walk out with TC....a chick recording him drugged this was during the failed negotiation last yr, someone possibly blackmailing him

                    https://********/6AHPZK4JZtc?si=alQDCPDRV6nA_MnY

                    Chikk said she ran into him, so she was one of his car accidents, making fun of him in his low state, while you here coke snorts at the end...

                    Instead of being focused on TC he had relationship issues he was focused on taking his demon to Dubai....or du what lol

                    Yikes, Spence needs to save his money and surround himself with some better people.

                    What Spence needs to do is cancel the TC rematch asap, rest up, and then make a comeback at 154 against easy names and low level fighters.

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                    • sbbigmike
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by MulaKO
                      One picture looks clear
                      The other doesn’t
                      This proves he’s just not photogenic
                      Lmfao
                      Little to do with drained

                      Drunk face vs sober face.....drunk face is impossible to hide, no matter how u clean up
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