Comments Thread For: Crawford to De La Hoya: We Need Boxers at the Table; We Have the Power; Y'all Can't Keep Us from Using It

[Robi13]

You conveniently ignored the simple question that I've asked everyone who leg humps Boots.... As I expected.... This is why I look at all you Boots diehards comments casually. Y'all like to chant some of the most ignorant and illogical comments, then when someone asks you a realistic question, you run from it as fast as Boots did when Crawford's camp and the WBO presented Boots with the opportunity to fight Crawford for the WBO title.......lol.

There's no need for us to continue this conversation unless you are will to stop ignoring realistic conversation on actual events. 3 short subjects......Respond to them or just walk away from the conversation because I'm not interested in a "leg humping" session for Jaron Ennis.

1.Boots says nobody will fight him and that he is the most avoided. Who are the fighters who turned down a fight vs him? He's yet to give a name of any fighter they reached out to and they denied it for any reason. Unlike him with Crawford in which Bozy openly stated that they decided not to take the fight.

2.You claim Boots is the #1 threat. Why? Because you like his style? Who has he beat that makes him a bigger threat than David Avaneysan or Egidijus Kavaliauskas or Eimantas Stanionis or Keith Thurman?........ all of those individuals have fought tougher competition than Boots. Boots looks damn good fighting C Level fighters.

3.Time is on Boots side.....I mean, he's young, but he's not the only talented fighter whom has time on their side. Crawford could physically compete at a high level for another 4/5 years if he wanted to (which he won't as he's stated that already). Keith Thurman isn't a elder statesmen either. Vergil Ortiz, Eimantas Stanionis, Rashidi Ellis, etc.... those guys will be around for a while too and all of them have stated that they wouldn't mind sharing the ring with Boots as well.

Wtf? You big tripping bro, but ok I’ll play your game.

1. I don’t know and I don’t care I’m not on team boots or have some type of insider info nor care to pretend to, I don’t believe everything I hear in the media or read in the media.

2. I believe boots is the number 1 threat because I know what I see and I ain’t gotta prove it to no one. If/when boots ever fights those fighters you just named to have had fought better opposition, I’ll bet you money boots beats them all.

3. the only one I think can hang with boots is Vergil Ortiz. I think both boots and Vergil can hang with bud too, Vergil more so at 54 as I doubt we see him at 47 ever again.

im not trying to convince you of nothing bro just giving my opinions and like I said, I’ll bet you money boots handles biz vs those contenders if they ever fight.

i got a number 4 for you…

4. accept my bet or don’t respond I don’t care to debate nothing with you, just making sure you know I stand by what I believe in what I see in boots.

[GFunk23]

I'm not sure that even the fans saw it as a superfight, frankly. It had nowhere near the chatter of MayPac or Canelo/GGG or Joshua/Clinchko or Wilder/Fury.

I disagree. It was a Superfight imo. Not May-Pac but as big as Canelo vs Lil g and bigger than Joshua-Klit and Fury-Wilder

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Wtf? You big tripping bro, but ok I’ll play your game.

1. I don’t know and I don’t care I’m not on team boots or have some type of insider info nor care to pretend to, I don’t believe everything I hear in the media or read in the media.

2. I believe boots is the number 1 threat because I know what I see and I ain’t gotta prove it to no one. If/when boots ever fights those fighters you just named to have had fought better opposition, I’ll bet you money boots beats them all.

3. the only one I think can hang with boots is Vergil Ortiz. I think both boots and Vergil can hang with bud too, Vergil more so at 54 as I doubt we see him at 47 ever again.

im not trying to convince you of nothing bro just giving my opinions and like I said, I’ll bet you money boots handles biz vs those contenders if they ever fight.

i got a number 4 for you…

4. accept my bet or don’t respond I don’t care to debate nothing with you, just making sure you know I stand by what I believe in what I see in boots.

Get out your feelings.... How am I tripping because I pointed out that you like everyone else, ignore the simple questions that are asked that contradict you fandom of Ennis... It's not a game homie.... They were questions that were a part of the discussion.

To your responses....

1. You don't know and don't care? You don't believe everything you hear/read in the media..... So do you cherry pick, or what.... What exactly does that mean.... Not having any "insider info"....well what do you base your opinion of Boots on. Because you are clearly chanting exactly what is said by the "media" and his fans whom are "team Ennis" which you claim not to be. I don't rely on the media to gain my opinion. I'm seen Ennis first hand as an amateur and now as a pro. Been to his gym. This specific question is for all of those who jump on his campaign that he "deserves" a shot at all the titles when he has yet to even fight a legit contender. It's like it hurts people's feelings for me to point out that he has "proven" nothing by beating the C level competition that he's beat. Are y'all so in love with this dude that you believe he is so damn good he is going to walk through all competition like that. He arguably has never lost a round as a professional...... I would argue, that is because of who he has fought as a professional.

2. You know what you see...... WHAT IS IT.... Are you having comprehension struggles.... That's what I'm asking you. What do you see that is so different. YOU... can't prove ****...you are in no more control over what goes on in the ring than any other fan on this board. You have to do the same thing we all have to do and that's sit back and wait. But I'm having a boxing conversation and you responding with "you don't have to prove it to no one"......Get out your feelings, kid. Am I offending you by expecting you to articulate you opinion on a subject like any other adult? You saying If/When Boots fights the guys I mentioned...... I guess you missed the fact that he has had the opportunity multiple times to fight any of them as they have stated they were open to the fight and/or called him out specifically. Especially Blair Cobbs & Rahidi Ellis who are both on video saying to him directly that they want to fight.

3. You THINK Ortiz can hang with Boots....Ok. And you THINK both can hang with Bud.....lol. Okay.... Thinking is fine. Nothing wrong with that....but here's the hard facts.... One of Boots biggest wins was vs Dulorme.... A guy that Crawford stopped 7 year prior when Crawford was fighting at 135lbs trying to move up. Since that stoppage Dulorme lost 5 of his next 8 fights. Fought Ennis at 147lbs....a division he has no business in and got laid out early. Vergil fought another small fighter connected to Crawford... Maurice Hooker who I seen with my own eyes, was too small to last 3 rounds of sparring vs Crawford in the gym with head gear. Virgil went 8 rounds with him and the fight was stopped only because Hooker threw his arm out and couldn't continue.

You have more confidence in their abilities than they do......
------Vergil Ortiz was Bud's mandatory for 2 years. He was in front of a camera chanting repeatedly that he was ready for Crawford. Even said that he thinks he can stop him... we all were at the fight when Crawford was ringside for the Ortiz/Hooker fight. Vergil's energy changed as he saw Crawford staring at him from the stands. He went from "I believe I can stop him" to "I just want a chance"....well, after that Hooker victory he became the mandatory as Shawn Porter was dropped from the mandatory due to not exercising it. Ortiz followed suit and refused to exercise his mandatory as well. Chose to fight a guy Crawford stopped in Kavaliauskas and then Michael McKinson. The WBO reached out to Oscar De La Hoya about putting the fight together, which Oscar confirmed and expressed that Ortiz was looking to try and make a fight with Stanionis instead........This is a dude who had a title shot offered to him and he chose to go fight someone else's mandatory.
-----Jaron Ennis's camp was contacted directly by Crawford's camp AND BLK Prime about giving him a title shot.... They shot down the offer claiming they were "loyal to Showtime".....How are you loyal to a platform that didn't have a title bout in place for you. A title you claim you was willing to fight anyone anywhere for. At the time Ennis was ranked 2nd by the WBO meaning he could have petitioned to get the fight personally. He chose not to, but then they complained when David Avaneysan petitioned for the fight and got his opportunity. Boots petitioned to fight Spence after word got out that Keith Thurman petitioned to fight him when the Crawford/Spence negotiations fell through the first time. In your words you "know what you see".......Are you choosing not to see that?
If either of these 2 were as confident as you are in them that they can "hang" with Bud.........why is it that neither have made ANY ATTEMPT at officially trying to get a title shot vs him.

4. Accept your bet or don't respond?..... You sound goofy, who TF do you think you are.... My money belongs to my family, my gym, and my community. If you aren't willing to hold a boxing conversation on a boxing forum... Why TF are you here? You don't need to be careless with your money for me to know you stand by what you believe in Boots's ability. I'm simply asking you 'why' and 'how'....... Betting on a situation you can't control is ignorant in my opinion. If that's what you like to do, that's coo. That's why casinos are so prosperous, because they know there are a lot of people who do the same thing. You're not going to be in the ring fighting either of the 2, so you can't prevent and/or help either of them win or lose. I'm simply looking at what actually has happened and what they both have done to their level of competition and expressed my prediction of the outcome. I simply asked about your logic on how you have come up with your strong beliefs in Boots (& Ortiz) ability to hang with Crawford. I've yet to get that from you.... I guess it's because you feel you don't have to "prove anything" to me......lol.

I guess I'll just hold this conversation with someone else......lol. Peace.

[Robi13]

Get out your feelings.... How am I tripping because I pointed out that you like everyone else, ignore the simple questions that are asked that contradict you fandom of Ennis... It's not a game homie.... They were questions that were a part of the discussion.

To your responses....

1. You don't know and don't care? You don't believe everything you hear/read in the media..... So do you cherry pick, or what.... What exactly does that mean.... Not having any "insider info"....well what do you base your opinion of Boots on. Because you are clearly chanting exactly what is said by the "media" and his fans whom are "team Ennis" which you claim not to be. I don't rely on the media to gain my opinion. I'm seen Ennis first hand as an amateur and now as a pro. Been to his gym. This specific question is for all of those who jump on his campaign that he "deserves" a shot at all the titles when he has yet to even fight a legit contender. It's like it hurts people's feelings for me to point out that he has "proven" nothing by beating the C level competition that he's beat. Are y'all so in love with this dude that you believe he is so damn good he is going to walk through all competition like that. He arguably has never lost a round as a professional...... I would argue, that is because of who he has fought as a professional.

2. You know what you see...... WHAT IS IT.... Are you having comprehension struggles.... That's what I'm asking you. What do you see that is so different. YOU... can't prove ****...you are in no more control over what goes on in the ring than any other fan on this board. You have to do the same thing we all have to do and that's sit back and wait. But I'm having a boxing conversation and you responding with "you don't have to prove it to no one"......Get out your feelings, kid. Am I offending you by expecting you to articulate you opinion on a subject like any other adult? You saying If/When Boots fights the guys I mentioned...... I guess you missed the fact that he has had the opportunity multiple times to fight any of them as they have stated they were open to the fight and/or called him out specifically. Especially Blair Cobbs & Rahidi Ellis who are both on video saying to him directly that they want to fight.

3. You THINK Ortiz can hang with Boots....Ok. And you THINK both can hang with Bud.....lol. Okay.... Thinking is fine. Nothing wrong with that....but here's the hard facts.... One of Boots biggest wins was vs Dulorme.... A guy that Crawford stopped 7 year prior when Crawford was fighting at 135lbs trying to move up. Since that stoppage Dulorme lost 5 of his next 8 fights. Fought Ennis at 147lbs....a division he has no business in and got laid out early. Vergil fought another small fighter connected to Crawford... Maurice Hooker who I seen with my own eyes, was too small to last 3 rounds of sparring vs Crawford in the gym with head gear. Virgil went 8 rounds with him and the fight was stopped only because Hooker threw his arm out and couldn't continue.

You have more confidence in their abilities than they do......
------Vergil Ortiz was Bud's mandatory for 2 years. He was in front of a camera chanting repeatedly that he was ready for Crawford. Even said that he thinks he can stop him... we all were at the fight when Crawford was ringside for the Ortiz/Hooker fight. Vergil's energy changed as he saw Crawford staring at him from the stands. He went from "I believe I can stop him" to "I just want a chance"....well, after that Hooker victory he became the mandatory as Shawn Porter was dropped from the mandatory due to not exercising it. Ortiz followed suit and refused to exercise his mandatory as well. Chose to fight a guy Crawford stopped in Kavaliauskas and then Michael McKinson. The WBO reached out to Oscar De La Hoya about putting the fight together, which Oscar confirmed and expressed that Ortiz was looking to try and make a fight with Stanionis instead........This is a dude who had a title shot offered to him and he chose to go fight someone else's mandatory.
-----Jaron Ennis's camp was contacted directly by Crawford's camp AND BLK Prime about giving him a title shot.... They shot down the offer claiming they were "loyal to Showtime".....How are you loyal to a platform that didn't have a title bout in place for you. A title you claim you was willing to fight anyone anywhere for. At the time Ennis was ranked 2nd by the WBO meaning he could have petitioned to get the fight personally. He chose not to, but then they complained when David Avaneysan petitioned for the fight and got his opportunity. Boots petitioned to fight Spence after word got out that Keith Thurman petitioned to fight him when the Crawford/Spence negotiations fell through the first time. In your words you "know what you see".......Are you choosing not to see that?
If either of these 2 were as confident as you are in them that they can "hang" with Bud.........why is it that neither have made ANY ATTEMPT at officially trying to get a title shot vs him.

4. Accept your bet or don't respond?..... You sound goofy, who TF do you think you are.... My money belongs to my family, my gym, and my community. If you aren't willing to hold a boxing conversation on a boxing forum... Why TF are you here? You don't need to be careless with your money for me to know you stand by what you believe in Boots's ability. I'm simply asking you 'why' and 'how'....... Betting on a situation you can't control is ignorant in my opinion. If that's what you like to do, that's coo. That's why casinos are so prosperous, because they know there are a lot of people who do the same thing. You're not going to be in the ring fighting either of the 2, so you can't prevent and/or help either of them win or lose. I'm simply looking at what actually has happened and what they both have done to their level of competition and expressed my prediction of the outcome. I simply asked about your logic on how you have come up with your strong beliefs in Boots (& Ortiz) ability to hang with Crawford. I've yet to get that from you.... I guess it's because you feel you don't have to "prove anything" to me......lol.

I guess I'll just hold this conversation with someone else......lol. Peace.

all that bs to basically duck the bet, it’s clear as day as to who believes what they write and who wolfin… stay safe brotha.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

all that bs to basically duck the bet, it’s clear as day as to who believes what they write and who wolfin… stay safe brotha.

You illiterate ass is struggling for money clown. I stand on my word as I always have. The money in my account is from what I do to take care of my responsibilities like a man is suppose to..... You mad that some stranger doesn't want to bet you.....lol.

I've never known for anyone to cry about not being able to "bet" someone on a forum of any kind. I said what I said. PERIOD. I don't need to put a dollar next to it for anyone to know that I mean what I say..... You must be struggling for relevance in person..... Mfer actually crying because I didn't "take a bet"......lol. FOH.

[Robi13]

You illiterate ass is struggling for money clown. I stand on my word as I always have. The money in my account is from what I do to take care of my responsibilities like a man is suppose to..... You mad that some stranger doesn't want to bet you.....lol.

I've never known for anyone to cry about not being able to "bet" someone on a forum of any kind. I said what I said. PERIOD. I don't need to put a dollar next to it for anyone to know that I mean what I say..... You must be struggling for relevance in person..... Mfer actually crying because I didn't "take a bet"......lol. FOH.

Emotional ass female, stfu keep it moving. Take the bet or keep it moving I ain’t trying to back and forth with you clown I never did. You talking I’m talking I said bet on what you say and you ducked. Plain and simple . Clown and for the record, you ain’t gotta bet on what you say just know that I’m down to bet on what I said. My point is already proven. Sensitive ass b.itch

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Emotional ass female, stfu keep it moving. Take the bet or keep it moving I ain’t trying to back and forth with you clown I never did. You talking I’m talking I said bet on what you say and you ducked. Plain and simple . Clown and for the record, you ain’t gotta bet on what you say just know that I’m down to bet on what I said. My point is already proven. Sensitive ass b.itch

I don't give a ****, broke a$$ *****.... You crying about someone not betting you clown. Calling someone else sensitive. I'm laughing at your dumb a$$.... Your point is proven....Your dumb a$$ didn't say **** but give your ****** a$$ opinion and I shot it down with logic and facts.... If you read on the appropriate grade level as most adults, you would understand just how far down your comprehension level is on this subject.

You tell me to take the bet and move on.....lol.. B***h I'm here to discuss boxing. You move TF on clown. This ain't a betting site. Stop crying hoe. It's not hard to just ignore me. It's not like I'm chasing you. I'm responding in a BOXING forum about some simple minded hoe who's in her feelings about a stranger not taking a bet with her......lol.

[just the facts]

Crawford is a known racist everything is about race with him he has his Guatemalan trainer in the background no props given and gives all the credit to Bomac but it's Esau who is the brains he's the former fighter where as Bomack doesn't know how to fight for ****. Then he throws the racist comments at canelo about fighting a black fighter then gets all quiet after canelo whooped charlo. You think if it was Haymon talking Crawford would disagree with him???? Fuxk no and fuxk Crawford bigot ass.

Trey Shaw, the known racist is YOU! Every single post you make on this website is made with racist motives. No exceptions………..

[Robi13]

I don't give a ****, broke a$$ *****.... You crying about someone not betting you clown. Calling someone else sensitive. I'm laughing at your dumb a$$.... Your point is proven....Your dumb a$$ didn't say **** but give your ****** a$$ opinion and I shot it down with logic and facts.... If you read on the appropriate grade level as most adults, you would understand just how far down your comprehension level is on this subject.

You tell me to take the bet and move on.....lol.. B***h I'm here to discuss boxing. You move TF on clown. This ain't a betting site. Stop crying hoe. It's not hard to just ignore me. It's not like I'm chasing you. I'm responding in a BOXING forum about some simple minded hoe who's in her feelings about a stranger not taking a bet with her......lol.

Yeah yeah ****.ing clown. Ducking ass bi.tch

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Yeah yeah ****.ing clown. Ducking ass bi.tch

Still cryin'?...... Never seen someone so emotional over a dollar......lol.