Debate over UFC isn’t real, boxing’s plight is

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  • Dagreatest
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    #21
    I am huge boxing fan and I tolerate MMA. The UFC fighter is getting robbed by Dana White and his cronies, so much that the best fighter in the MMA game will not sign with him and that is Fedor. I see UFC having the same problems boxing has right now. Like someone said they are still in it's infancy. UFC is a huge marketing success but the fighters dont get paid relative to it's success. Eventually the fighters from the UFC will ban together to change this and I see this as their downfall.

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    • PensionKiller
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      #22
      Boxing isn't dying.

      Look how well Mayweather - Marquez did even though boxing fans themselves never expected 1mil. BTW it clearly beat the ratings of UFC. I watch UFC a lil but I didn't really know the names on that day. I mean the so called boxing fan Dana White didn't know Marquez...

      Look at how many sanctioning bodies there are and how sustained they are. Their % is that of what UFC fighters get paid... Incredible!

      Look at how much boxers can get paid.

      Look at the companies that get into financial trouble like elite xc.

      Look at how vast MMA is: Wrestling, BJJ, Kickboxing, Muy Thai, karate etc.. yet it still only gets an average of 600-700k PPV. I mean surely with so many arts there should be a bigger audience.

      Look at how many boxing fights there are in the world. There's a match in plenty of places in the UK every saturday, in a hell of a lot in other countries.

      Boxing is so huge that it will never die. It's like trying to kill off Influenza. It's so huge that no injection can kill it off.

      If boxing became only GBP (UFC) and Pride (Top rank) with a JUST few smaller promotion companies like frank warren, dibella, sauderland etc... It would not even be a contest.

      Infact if they only used the ring belt then it would be a lot easier to follow boxing and be more popular. MMA is not a problem for boxing. MMA and boxing fans are not even the same market. Boxings amazing ability to be diverse and huge is the problem.

      It's like having a 100 teams in the NBA, NFL or Premier League (Soccer). You are so sucessful to sustain it, but it's hard to follow every team, every week.

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      • Ravishing
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        #23
        Originally posted by VipersThunder
        To bad you have no way of knowing what the Ultimate *** competition really sold.
        They release the PPV numbers just like how they do with Boxing. So if the UFC is lying about their numbers, who's to say HBO, GBP, or Top Rank aren't lying about their numbers either?

        We're just supposed to believe them because it's Boxing? A sport that's NEVER seen corruption before right? lol

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        • PensionKiller
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          #24
          Originally posted by Ravishing
          They release the PPV numbers just like how they do with Boxing. So if the UFC is lying about their numbers, who's to say HBO, GBP, or Top Rank aren't lying about their numbers either?

          We're just supposed to believe them because it's Boxing? A sport that's NEVER seen corruption before right? lol
          If we do not believe in the ratings they share, then we need to use that for everyone and disblieve it. So the guy may mention statistics in his article, does that mean we should disregard it?

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          • Ravishing
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            #25
            Originally posted by PensionKiller
            If we do not believe in the ratings they share, then we need to use that for everyone and disblieve it. So the guy may mention statistics in his article, does that mean we should disregard it?
            It's irrelevant across the board. Why would promoters (both MMA and Boxing) lie to fans about one thing, but tell the truth about PPV or gate numbers?
            Promoters do more than promote fights, they promote the wellness of their product at whatever cost.

            That's why when people talk numbers and ****, you gotta take it with a grain of salt. UFC could report 1.8 Million buys for UFC 100, but is it a far stretch to say it might've done maybe only 1.2 or 1.3 and vice versa with Boxing events?

            Nobody really knows unless you're the actual cable company or promoter.

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            • Kevin Jesus
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              #26
              Hahahaha Ravishing wrote this article.


              Jk



              Well it's 'unclear' what exactly this writer was on when he wrote this piece, of **** article. 1Mill vs "400K" is unclear who won? I heard it did way less than 400k.

              Boxing crushed MMA in 2007

              2.4Mill+900k with two PPVs alone, that's not to mention all the other PPVs.

              In 2007, if i'm not mistaken, Tito Ortiz's PPV was the highest selling MMA PPV and De La Hoya-Mayweather crushed that PPV by a mile. Writer clearly is biased to UFC/MMA.

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              • snakey112
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                #27
                why do people care so much about ppv numbers? none of you are getting any of the profit made by each ppv and neither boxing or MMA is going to "die" or "go away"

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                  #28
                  UFC

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                  • Fighting Cougar
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by snakey112
                    why do people care so much about ppv numbers? none of you are getting any of the profit made by each ppv and neither boxing or MMA is going to "die" or "go away"
                    Thats the way I see it for now.

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                    • Kakutogi-Gumi
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                      #30
                      Be like Disuke Naito.

                      Cheer on athletes.

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