Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz: "I Think Zhilei Zhang Could Beat Anthony Joshua"

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #31
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

    If he didn't do anything, you better not rate anyone else, because Joshua has fought more and better competition at heavyweight than Fury, Ruiz, Usyk, or Wilder.
    Nobody rates Joshua's win vs Whyte as one of his best 'Only Thack, and? There is a reason why he is doing this mate'.,

    You guessed it? To make Tyson Fury's lacking resume look better 'That is the only reason why Thack is trying to make out, that Whyte was one of Joshua's best wins'.

    Anthony Joshua beating Dillian Whyte, was like Tyson Fury beating John Mcdermott 'That win was in and around that level, most likely slightly better'.

    Wladimir Kiltschko did not retire after losing to Fury, and he was not out of the game for 2 years 'Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Kiltschko in his 19th professional fight, 17 months after Fury vs Kiltschko'.

    Anthony Joshua fought the Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should of fought in their scheduled rematch 'But Fury did not fight Kiltschko because he kept on pulling out of their rematch unfortunately'.

    Kiltschko was not out of the game for 2 years, he did not retire 'Wladimir Kiltschko during that 17 month period, had to endure three back to back training camps. Kiltschko was always in training for his rematch with Fury, and his ambition was to win back the World title's'.

    'Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua was the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years' and that performance is overall Joshua's best win.

    Note: Joshua's two performances vs Usyk, were very high level performances 'And two of his best performances, but Joshua did not win those fights'. Joshua vs Uysk I & II is skill for skill the highest level match up that has happened in Heavyweight during the post Kiltschko era, it was a higher level match up than Fury vs Wilder I, II and III.

    The Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury trilogy, may have been a more violent and brutal match up 'But skill for skill, the match up was not a high level fight. And the third fight as actually the worst fight from that perspective, both fighters were making unforced errors and fatigued from rounds 2-3 on wards and were just a mess'.

    I personally enjoyed the Wilder vs Fury trilogy more than Usyk vs Joshua I & II. The passion and competition between both fighters was awesome, both inside and outside the ring.

    'But I don't regard that match up as a whole, a higher level match up than Usyk vs Joshua skill for skill'.

    Usyk vs Joshua I & II, may only be surpassed if Fury vs Uysk fight happens 'Well I believe it will, because both Fury & Uysk are the two best most proven pure boxers in the Heavyweight division skill for skill, Joshua is the third most proven boxer outside of them' etc.



    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-19-2023, 06:53 PM.

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    • tokon
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      #32
      Most people do Andy!

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      • LAchargers373
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        #33
        Originally posted by Toffee

        Joshua v Klitschko was probably the top two heavyweights at the time in the ring.

        TBRB considered them the top two heavyweights afterwards too.

        It's the highlight of his career without a doubt.

        And yes, he fought at a high level against Usyk in a fight I'm not sure he was ever equipped to win. That's why it's too early to write him off.
        Joshua a hype job. He’s a decent fighter but he’s not elite. Frank Bruno 2.0

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        • BlackRobb
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          #34
          When is Fat Andy gonna fight? This era features more hot takes the actual fighting.

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          • Toffee
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            #35
            Originally posted by thack

            I'd say there's a stronger case for not writing him in....he's done nothing since Ruiz destroyed him and not that much before.There's a lot of good fighters out there now and Joshua is not making any impact.
            You literally just said his best performance was Usyk 2!

            So he did do something. In a career that has included unification, mandatories and winning the heavyweight championship of the world twice... you reckon his best performance came just over a year ago.

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