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  • Originally posted by rao007 View Post
    It would for me. You're basically saying Pac rehydrating all the way up to his natural weight which is rare for most boxers. Pacquiao just said recently he weighed 153. He's likely coming in the fight at 148-150.
    Who knows what the truth is, when boxers mention their weights. I also saw a recently interview where he says he weighs 151.
    Judging from the way he looks now, Pac looks like he's gained a little bit of bulk compared to his previous fights.

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    • If he really is looking stronger and maintains his speed, will Cotto's chin hold up to punches he can't see coming? I don't think Manny is planning on taking any punches from Cotto so it will be interesting what kind of gameplan they come up with to avoid Cotto's big shots, especially to the liver, and return hard blows in return. Manny's speed is his only advantage I see in this fight so far. Speed kills, and if he connects with a punch like the one he landed on Hatton, it's good night. Even Cotto said in an interview that the punch Manny landed on Hatton would of KOed Tyson, so even he has to be careful of the speed.

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      • Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
        If he really is looking stronger and maintains his speed, will Cotto's chin hold up to punches he can't see coming? I don't think Manny is planning on taking any punches from Cotto so it will be interesting what kind of gameplan they come up with to avoid Cotto's big shots, especially to the liver, and return hard blows in return. Manny's speed is his only advantage I see in this fight so far. Speed kills, and if he connects with a punch like the one he landed on Hatton, it's good night. Even Cotto said in an interview that the punch Manny landed on Hatton would of KOed Tyson, so even he has to be careful of the speed.

        Cotto does not leave his chin out like Hatton. Pacquiao MUST steal the first 2/3 rounds from Cotto. Because Cotto is durable, Packy has to be tactical. Plain and simple. If Packy can do that, in the middle and late rounds--Pacquiao should have enough endurance to counteract any last ditch effort from Cotto because he's still will coming forward due to Pacquiao's lack of power unless Pac can punch drunk Cotto like the way he did Diaz--which is doubtful.
        Last edited by rao007; 10-06-2009, 06:30 PM.

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        • Originally posted by madsweeney View Post
          I think 145 is perfect for him as its so close to his walking weight. No weight cutting = healthier, stronger, faster. If Pac's genetics are at all like mine (my family is from same region) the bulking is very minimal and speed isn't affected as much. Taking his genetics and how he works out he'd be building more aerobic fast twitch muscle...you know the fast/endurance stuff!
          I do understand the genetics and his natural athletism but his optimum fight weight might be lower, but I'm just speculating. Would like all things to be even but for his mobility a lower weight might benefit him

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            First Roach complains about Pacquiao playing hookie
            and now he's this ultimate terminating machine from
            the future? Which one is it?
            They are getting sillier by the day lol which is why i cant take anything their camp says seriously...

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            • Originally posted by lcheezy View Post
              STERIODS sSTERIODS STERIODs STEROIDS
              Originally posted by vrodz View Post
              I was thinking the same thing. But the comments in the article and the way Manny has come up in weight are kind of fishy if you ask me.
              what an alibi...!! at this very early stage!!
              can't you guys come up with something else?!?

              Originally posted by Machingo69 View Post
              Great analysis !!! I agree 100% Cotto can box, switch back and forth to south paw, very analytical and patient. His jab will be the key to keeping Pacquiao from coming in with those crazy combinations. Like Grustler said, if Cotto was able to knock Clottey down with one jab, could you imagine little Pacquiao taking that same jab ??? He would probably fly out of the ring LOL...

              Cotto got this... Am just very disappointed that people are counting cotto out so quickly. Cotto has been in very tough battles with world class elite boxers and people seem to forget all of that. All of the focus is on Pacquiao. Everyday you log into boxingscene or ********* etc and all you read is articles on Pacquiao.... It seems that Cotto doesn't even exist. But it's OK. My boy is focused and getting the training that he needs without any distractions. This Puerto Rican will KO Pacquiao.
              on the same breath that cottofans are counting manny out!
              understand that manny is the stellar attraction in the boxing world now.
              promotions to sell the fyt hinge on him...and cotto on the side.
              cotto will get the same attention and adulation once he beats pac.

              sadly....cotto will not be able to land a solid shot on manny.
              pac will spin cotto around he will be off-balance most of the time.
              cotto will get cut easily from pac's razor sharp cross and straights!!


              Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              I mean, Manny Pacquiao is truly a very good fighter and has been dominate on his past opponents but we should take into
              consideration that Juan Manuel Marquez was his last toughest
              opponent and he squeaked by him both times. YES I know
              Manny has improved much since then BUT we haven't seen how
              much considering his last opponents was not on his level come
              fight night. I thought Oscar and Hatton would take him because
              of their sizes but obviously when it came time them guys couldn't
              deliver BUT Cotto is a whole different story. He is still in his prime
              and has been in with some tough heavy hitters and from watching
              him fight I already know, if Manny can't stop Cotto early on he's
              finished. People talk about Cotto's conditioning but he did wear
              Zab out. Pressure and defense neutralizes Cotto, not so much
              speed I think because he has a considerable amount. I think
              Pac has a chance to win if Cotto is off his game and not properly
              prepared for Pac. Floyd/Marquez should be a lesson to many. Not
              saying Cotto is on Floyd's level and Marquez on Pac's but Cotto is
              still a top WW and this is Manny's first challenge in 3 fights. Cotto
              may turn out to be too much for him.
              you have a good argument for cotto to win.
              and a good alibi once manny beat cotto!!
              wouldn't you think pac is the better man if he wins....??

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              • Originally posted by fightingfigs View Post
                LOL he beat Mosley Clottey and Quintana. Mosley was a former P4P and true elite. QUintana was the only guy who could beat Paul Williams.

                Cmon give credit where credit is due. Pacquiao has faced nothing but overated and damaged goods above 130lbs. Size showe dthe difference in the mayweather vs Marquez fight and mayweather isnt even a strong puncher. Cotto hits like middleweight not pacquiao.

                Its funny how all these reports come out by ariza and roach that are waaay lobsided in pacquiaos favor however the only true reprt from porter was that pacquiao doesnt hit hard but hes fast.

                Thats the truest one of them all and thats gonna be the story of Cotto vs Pacquiao.

                Cotto is gonna wear his lil ass down and in the middle rounds eventually knock that hyped job out.

                WELCOME TO THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION lil guys
                you have double standards here. you only give credit to cotto but not to manny.
                anyway, most scribes and critics gave manny so much credit, he don't need yours!!

                porter is a jrMW...he's there to punish pac with his punches and increase pac's pain resistance.
                freddie offers $1000 bonus to whoever can knock pac down!!
                nobody ever did since the oscar camp!

                the second day of sparring saw porter got schooled by pac in all departments.
                porter got a mouthfull of scoldding from his father/trainer for his lousy performance.
                pac has started to be on the groove,..a well oiled killing machine.
                after this fyt, people will say that cotto is really on the decline.
                that freddie knows this and that so they chose cotto,,....not mosley!!


                Originally posted by Kdogg26 View Post
                propoganda propoganda propoganda is all that is coming out of Pac's camp, I AM SICK OF IT. Everyday we here Pac is superman, spiderman, hulk all in one. Shut the f**k up and get on with the job Pac camp!
                Originally posted by Jay856 View Post
                "propoganda propoganda propoganda is all that is coming out of Pac's camp, I AM SICK OF IT. Everyday we here Pac is superman, spiderman, hulk all in one. Shut the f**k up and get on with the job Pac camp"

                Thnx kdogg26, Cotto is gna do all the talking in the ring come Nov 14th.
                well, don't read and don't pOst any reaction.
                get out of here, brah....spare yourselves, DON'T GET SICK!!

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                • Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
                  Pac and his team are thinking that this is going to be easy for Pac based on what he did against Hatton. Hatton was custom made for Pac and if he would have ever fought Cotto, Hatton would've been destroyed even worse. No matter how strong they try to make Pac he's not going to be stronger than Cotto.

                  I think Pac will land some at the beginning but he's going to catch some too and he's going to feel them. Once Cotto starts wearing him down he's going to be on top of him and not he's not going to let off.
                  team pac never thought this fyt is going to be easy.
                  hatton was custom made for pac?!?
                  you got very good analysis......but only on hindsight!!
                  cotto would've destroyed hatton even worse??
                  nobody is wrong.......on hindsight.


                  Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
                  you cant compare marquez and pac at these higher weights. pac moved up because he was naturally getting bigger and has looked better than ever. marquez moved up to chase pac and he is not built for these higher weights.
                  some people just don't realize that....
                  ...because they are subjective and not objective!!

                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                  Nah. The funniest story so far is Pacquiao owning Porter in sparring and having to hold back from knocking him out.
                  true!!
                  this report didn't reach boxingscene...only the first day sparring.
                  i hope cotto will open up his camp to the media....why so secretive and all that?!?!
                  give cottofans something to celebrate for.....if there is any!

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                  • Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                    Filipino boxing hero and world pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao is stronger than he was when he scored a devastating second round knockout over IBO light welterweight champion Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas last May 2. [details]
                    So Jose Luis Castillo is being used as a punching bag for the Pac-Cotto fight ?

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                    • Originally posted by jetgeomcx View Post
                      you have double standards here. you only give credit to cotto but not to manny.
                      anyway, most scribes and critics gave manny so much credit, he don't need yours!!

                      porter is a jrMW...he's there to punish pac with his punches and increase pac's pain resistance.
                      freddie offers $1000 bonus to whoever can knock pac down!!
                      nobody ever did since the oscar camp!

                      the second day of sparring saw porter got schooled by pac in all departments.
                      porter got a mouthfull of scoldding from his father/trainer for his lousy performance.
                      pac has started to be on the groove,..a well oiled killing machine.
                      after this fyt, people will say that cotto is really on the decline.
                      that freddie knows this and that so they chose cotto,,....not mosley!!
                      just an opinion by shawn porter: “One of the best workouts I’ve ever had. I know he’s the best of the best, and he’ll shock the world again I think.”

                      http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=69

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