Comments Thread For: Paramount Global To Shut Down Showtime Sports; Network Will No Longer Broadcast Boxing

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Good. They can go back on regular network tv and start building an audience again. Boxing killed itself when most of the upcoming fighters and elite fighters went on Showtime and HBO exclusively, thus limiting their outreach to sports fans and future participants of the sport.

It's not that they went to HBO and Showtime , the Networks wouldn't show boxing anymore after Ray Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim in the ring. They refused to air it anymore.

[OnePunch]

PBC on Amazon Prime would be cool

Great. Maybe Haymon could kill that platform too.......

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

What few " Stars" that boxing has hardly ever fight , it's impossible to get new fans interested when the fighters that they know about fight once a year , or less , a year is a long freaking time between fights.

[kiaba360]

Good. They can go back on regular network tv and start building an audience again. Boxing killed itself when most of the upcoming fighters and elite fighters went on Showtime and HBO exclusively, thus limiting their outreach to sports fans and future participants of the sport.

It's wishful thinking. PBC started out on network TV, and it didn't last for one reason or another. Unfortunately, they'll probably wind up on a streaming service like almost every other promotional company. Wherever PBC lands, will they continue to abuse the PPV model? If so, then nothing will change.

[OnePunch]

PBC deals with Bounce,Spike TV, CBS, NBC and Showtime all ended terrible, Showtime was still dealing with PBC since the Weasel Espinoza is Haymonâs lap dog. Same thing can be said with Top Rank whoâs so terrible and ruined strong ties with ESPN. Boxing as a whole couldâve been in a better state but the promoters got greedy thinking they can get away with presenting sub par cards and wanting ridiculous purses for their fighters who nobody even cared about at the end of day.

PBC stink
Top Rank stink
DAZB stink

lets be real as boxing fans their greed killed the sport.

you forgot Fox

[OnePunch]

He tried to reduce prices! He sided with the subscription model... and it's not working. To the point where DAZN went to PPV. The theory behind subscription was more people pay less, more regularly... that was potentially great for us as fans. As things stand it comes down to a small number of fans to subsidise big fights through PPV if they can't generate mass appeal.

The issue is boxing itself. The multi org approach where fighters are kept apart in some instances and can avoid each other in other instances just isn't a good business model.

Boxing could be huge. But it isn't, and it's largely because it's terribly organised.

I like Eddie, but the mistake that was made was trying to fit "Canelo" type fighter into a subscription model. It was destined to fail. They could have thrived had they just stayed in their lane and done A and B level fights and left the huge PPV stars alone.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Thomas Hauser was calling for something like this years ago. Sidelining promoters is a great idea and increasingly possible if fighters begin to negotiate more flexible contracts in the style of Canelo.

Floyd made the blueprint , boxers don't need promoters. What does the promoter really do anyway ? Nothing that the fighters and networks can't hire someone to do for them.

[Dark night 24]

Why not be ballsy and just call them the n word? That’s clearly what you want to do since you seem to spend a lot of time obsessing with black guys on YouTube

WTF? The N-word why the hell would I say that? Clown B!cth I don't give two ****s about race

[OnePunch]

Forgive me for my ignorance but when did Pbc work with Espn?

When PBC first started they bought a bunch of TV time from ESPN in exchange for ESPN killing the Friday Night Fights series. PBC then put fights on different ESPN platforms but the shows were pretty bad and drew horrid numbers. ESPN didnt really care, because PBC bought the airtime and basically gave ESPN the content for free, but ESPN never considered renewing that deal.

At the time, PBC had a bunch of hedge fund money and thought they could run everyone else out of business. The ESPN Friday Night Fights was a platform that pretty much ANY promoter could get a date on, if you offered them an interesting enough fight. I did 3 or 4 of those shows myself. By killing that platform, PBC was able to marginalize some of the mid level promoters, like Main Events, Deguardia, Goosen, Dibella, etc, but it didnt really affect their ACTUAL competitors such as Golden Boy, Top Rank. Matchroom, etc......

[OnePunch]

Floyd made the blueprint , boxers don't need promoters. What does the promoter really do anyway ? Nothing that the fighters and networks can't hire someone to do for them.

Floyd made the blueprint that ONCE A PROMOTER HAS BUILT A FIGHTER TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, then that fighter no longer needs a promoter.