Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Fight Realistically Is Not Going to Happen Until March or April

[tokon]

Realistically. . . . it isn't happening.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I believe Wilder has been led down the path of believing Joshua actually wanted them to fight, too many times to trust the Joshua camp. Wilder should go ahead and fight Ruiz and then negotiate a fight with Joshua for the Spring. He should definitely not stay inactive. A novel approach to a Joshua fight would be for Wilder to take a cue from real estate transactions and demand some serious upfront "earnest money."

Stylistically the fight is a good match up, but? Where is the passion in the match up? What is Wilder vs Joshua actually about? Is it just about business?

Razor Ruddock vs Mike Tyson, Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Frank Bruno vs Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson 'None of these fights were just about business'.

Yes Wilder vs Joshua is a mega fight, but when I look at the match up? There seems to be not much depth in the fight 'Between the two fighters'.

It looks to me as if it is just a business fight 'If it was more than just business, Wilder or Joshua would be confronting each other'.

Think back to Fury vs Wilder? That fight meant more to Wilder than just business, that was why he was intent to push for the rematch no matter what.

I am not so sure whether this fight for Joshua or Wilder really means that much to ether of them 'Joshua is more passionate about his goal of fighting for a World title again, if Wilder is apart of that process then Joshua will fight him'.

Note: I stated on a post the other week, that if Deontay Wilder conducted a press conference live 'And in this press conference he told the world, that he will flying to the UK to confront Anthony Joshua. Immediately, this fight in my opinion would potentially become the biggest fight to be made in combat sports.

There is a lot of material which these fighters can work with, this is show business 'But I actually think the show business side of boxing has gone backwards, the new school way of promoting fights is not always that effective'.

Sometimes old school tactics work, confronting another man in person 'Challenge this man, if he has got a problem? Then so what, have a jostle there and then'.

Muhammad Ali did it, Mike Tyson did it, and the last real heavyweight from my knowledge that used these tactics was David Haye on Wladimir Kiltschko 'Haye When he entered into the Heavyweight division, confronted Wladimir Kiltschko in person. And from that very moment, that match up became the fight to make at Heavyweight'.

The public pressure increased, to the point were the fight at some point had to be made.

In regards to the Wilder vs Joshua match up, there is a lot of material there that is not being used 'In sports and show business, you have to use the stage' etc.

[Willow The Wisp]

joshua should forget wilder's delusional ass. besides the saudis don't care at all for wilder. joshua should go after fury that's a much bigger fight than bum squad wilder especially in the UK.

The problem for a Wilder vs. Joshua fight isn't the money. Both are bigger names than Usyk, and both bring the excitement. A jucy PPV.
Still no. 2 and 3 in Red Hot Boxing.

The PROBLEM with this fight is figuring out how to make Joshua last 3 rounds against Wilder, who's hit and KOd every man he's ever fought except Fury, and even that one's very much in dispute.

[Willow The Wisp]

Stylistically the fight is a good match up, but? Where is the passion in the match up? What is Wilder vs Joshua actually about? Is it just about business?

Razor Ruddock vs Mike Tyson, Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Frank Bruno vs Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson 'None of these fights were just about business'.

Yes Wilder vs Joshua is a mega fight, but when I look at the match up? There seems to be not much depth in the fight 'Between the two fighters'.

It looks to me as if it is just a business fight 'If it was more than just business, Wilder or Joshua would be confronting each other'.

Think back to Fury vs Wilder? That fight meant more to Wilder than just business, that was why he was intent to push for the rematch no matter what.

I am not so sure whether this fight for Joshua or Wilder really means that much to ether of them 'Joshua is more passionate about his goal of fighting for a World title again, if Wilder is apart of that process then Joshua will fight him'.

Note: I stated on a post the other week, that if Deontay Wilder conducted a press conference live 'And in this press conference he told the world, that he will flying to the UK to confront Anthony Joshua. Immediately, this fight in my opinion would potentially become the biggest fight to be made in combat sports.

There is a lot of material which these fighters can work with, this is show business 'But I actually think the show business side of boxing has gone backwards, the new school way of promoting fights is not always that effective'.

Sometimes old school tactics work, confronting another man in person 'Challenge this man, if he has got a problem? Then so what, have a jostle there and then'.

Muhammad Ali did it, Mike Tyson did it, and the last real heavyweight from my knowledge that used these tactics was David Haye on Wladimir Kiltschko 'Haye When he entered into the Heavyweight division, confronted Wladimir Kiltschko in person. And from that very moment, that match up became the fight to make at Heavyweight'.

The public pressure increased, to the point were the fight at some point had to be made.

In regards to the Wilder vs Joshua match up, there is a lot of material there that is not being used 'In sports and show business, you have to use the stage' etc.

Wilder should tale lessons from Shannon Briggs. LET'S GO CHAMP!

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Neither guy wants to chance the loss. Bunch of silliness. Hearn obviously has a plan to milk AJ via B level fighters right up until AJ says he is finally retiring, and then they will choose the biggest name around at that time and feed AJ to him. L

Wilder, who knows what is up with that dude. He refuses to pay Ruiz, a former title holder, anything.....which says a lot about Wilder's confidence. He could pay Ruiz what Ruiz is asking for, they both get a nice payday and it is great fight for the fans. Instead, Wilder blows smoke and trash talks, and goes to do a reality show. Wilder has never been a good fighter, he has one weapon, and AJ, while damaged, is a good boxer who knows how to move away from the right hand and AJ hits like a mule, he likely KO's Wilder.

It is the state of boxing. No glory or the best fight the best. It is all about cherrypicking.

[joe strong]

Hearn sounds like a broken record...He fought Franklin and Helenis on the strength that he was going to be matched with Wilder , these were 'warm ups' so the question is who are they going dig up for another 'warm up' ?..pathetic!

Kabayel is the rumour…

[wildman]

I doubt it ever happens. Most of these guys today just aren't warriors. They are afraid to take any risk. Back in the 70s, did any of those guys sit around inactive while pricing themselves out? No, they just signed the contract and fought! That mentality seems to be gone forever. Only a very few guys like that around today. Notice how Inoue's fights don't take forever to negotiate. The fights are just made and he fights.

[thack]

Kabayel is the rumour…

Is he on life support?
He's about Joshua's barrow actually , no names on his record apart from the great Delboy , the nut huggers would love this one ...Joshua may even win....maybe!

[joe strong]

Is he on life support?
He's about Joshua's barrow actually , no names on his record apart from the great Delboy , the nut huggers would love this one ...Joshua may even win....maybe!

It is mentioned in the Euro News article. Kabayal is rumoured as the next fight for Joshua. If it falls thru Kabayal could face Tony Yoka. Hearn was even talking Joshua/Hrgovic I guess but Wallin is now the IBF #2 so if the IBF belt becomes vacant next year Wallin would fight for the vacant belt. Joshua is the IBF #3 so unless he fought Walkin in an eliminator he is on the outside looking in but I bet Wallin would take that fight for the payday but would Joshua even fight Wallin?

[dan-b]

Nothing like AJ/Wilder to bring out people's emotions. If it happens it happens. I'm not overly concerned.