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  • Toprope
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    #41
    Originally posted by boxingitis
    If he wins, 2 time Unidisputed, 4 Division world Champ. Is that P4P #1?
    Hhhhmmmm...over Crawford...*** No!!
    Last edited by Toprope; 10-13-2023, 09:25 PM.

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    • boxingitis
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      #42
      Originally posted by Toprope

      Hhhhmmmm...over Crawford...*** No!!
      Crawford has never been 4 division Champ and 2 time Unidisputed. Inuoe will.

      If it's about Opposition Canelo has a better Resume than Crawford.

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      • Elheath
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        #43
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
        yes, 6 years ago!!! do you understand there's "new" potential fans every day???? do you know that some people wasnt there or around "6 years ago"??? so how else is Inoue gonna gain new fans??????!!! are you that slow? you seriously is arguing with me because i suggested that he should fight more in the US to gain more fans aka make even more money!!! you think that i am dissing Inoue??? i am done with you on this subject.
        Originally posted by kiaba360
        Inoue/Fulton should've been the match-up that happened in the USA, but it didn't. Why? because Ohashi Promotions put up the $$$, not Top Rank or PBC/SHO. Fulton didn't seem to have a better option because he isn't a big star here. The beauty of being a star in your own country...is that you're not obligated to fight outside of it. If Boxing is indeed a global sport, then foreign boxers shouldn't always have to travel to the USA. Many foreign boxers come here out of necessity. Pac was one of them. Pacquiao's star-power grew because he was fighting Mexicans with a U.S. profile (MAB, Morales, Marquez), and then the DLH fight catapulted him. There's no one around Inoue's weight that would entice him to fight over here. He'd have to move all the way up to 135, which probably isn't happening.
        Ironically it has come to the point that more than Inoue himself, his OPPONENTS would be disappointed and argue against fighting in the US if given the choice. There is a reason Fulton, despite being the one with the belts, was so eager to get a match with Inoue (the challenger) in Japan. Fulton's highest purse he got prior to Inoue was something like 1mil against Figueroa, followed by 500k being the 2nd highest. Against Inoue he raked in something like 4~5 million including the late fee. Fulton would've not taken that match if it was in USA, I believe.

        Granted if we are to believe Arum, we might be able to see him in US in 2024 for a match or two because Inoue himself said he is looking forward to fighting in US again, which in that case the likely opponent will be Nery I'm guessing since he can't fight in Japan. However if Nery actually gets to fight Inoue, he's probably gonna kick himself for being ****** enough to get banned eternally from fighting in Japan because the money dropped down royally as a result..

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        • Elheath
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          #44
          Originally posted by boxingitis

          Crawford has never been 4 division Champ and 2 time Unidisputed. Inuoe will.

          If it's about Opposition Canelo has a better Resume than Crawford.
          Crawford really has to thank Spence for being able to hide his flaws and be considered a good fighter until he exposed him, because that is literally the only factor that is keeping him up.

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          • kiaba360
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            #45
            Originally posted by Elheath

            Ironically it has come to the point that more than Inoue himself, his OPPONENTS would be disappointed and argue against fighting in the US if given the choice. There is a reason Fulton, despite being the one with the belts, was so eager to get a match with Inoue (the challenger) in Japan. Fulton's highest purse he got prior to Inoue was something like 1mil against Figueroa, followed by 500k being the 2nd highest. Against Inoue he raked in something like 4~5 million including the late fee. Fulton would've not taken that match if it was in USA, I believe.

            Granted if we are to believe Arum, we might be able to see him in US in 2024 for a match or two because Inoue himself said he is looking forward to fighting in US again, which in that case the likely opponent will be Nery I'm guessing since he can't fight in Japan. However if Nery actually gets to fight Inoue, he's probably gonna kick himself for being ****** enough to get banned eternally from fighting in Japan because the money dropped down royally as a result..
            I think one potential reason why Inoue hasn't been fighting more often in the USA.....is Top Rank. It's safe to say that with the Fulton victory, Inoue's price has gone up. He's definitely a 7-figure fighter now, and TR is notoriously frugal.

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            • _Rexy_
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              #46
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              You have to factor in who he fought and did it against. And compare it to, say, Crawford. Who is also 2 time undisputed (almost 3 time undisputed.)
              For four years every Bud hater was screaming about how awful Crawford's resume was. He finally dogwalks Spence like we all said he would, and now he's got a great resume?

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              • _Rexy_
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                #47
                Originally posted by dan-b

                Quality of opposition > belt collection.
                This isn't some Tank Davis hopping around picking up vacant fake belts. Dude has never fought for a vacant title. He fights everyone who will fight him, and cleans **** out.

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                • _Rexy_
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boxingitis

                  Agree. The only ones that have a chance of being #1 the winner of Canelo vs Benavidez, Tyson vs Usyk, or Shakur vs Tank, maybe en Bivol vs Beterbiev.
                  Thought you'd just sneak that in there?

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                  • _Rexy_
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                    yes, USA!!! do you think the fight will generate more money having it in Japan? i dont think so... do it in vegas and have japan buy the ppv, money from ppv will be crazy plus the gate. why would top rank not wanna promote Inoue to the american audience? if pacman never fought in the US do you think he would have become a household name?
                    The fights generate a ****load more in Japan.

                    You think Fulton went to Japan thinking "I'll make more money habing this fight in front of fifteen people in Philly?"

                    The money is in Japan.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_

                      For four years every Bud hater was screaming about how awful Crawford's resume was. He finally dogwalks Spence like we all said he would, and now he's got a great resume?
                      I didn’t say that Crawford has a great resume. Just that you should compare Inoue’s resume to his when you form an opinion on P4P.

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