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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    This era is in its latter stages, and the fact of the matter is? Joshua has been the only Champion who has taken on all comers, and then next in line after Joshua is Deontay Wilder 'Who to his credit did defend his WBC Title 10 times'.

    Neither Fury and Wilder for me, especially Fury 'They do not have the depth in their resumes, to maintain their universal perception after a loss' Right now people will not be able to accept or imagine this reality 'Because people are to caught up with living in the moment'.

    All those fighters you have just mentioned, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, George Foreman 'Yes they may have lost to lesser fighters, lesser fighters compared to them but they came back' That is the ultimate test of a Champion.

    I have theorized this before? If and when Tyson Fury loses a fight, there is a possibility that straight away he will look to get out of the game 'Fury has had one tough trilogy with one fighter in Wilder, and ever since that fight? He has seemingly been 50% looking to get out of the game'.

    David Price once stated, during the build up to one of his fights 'I believe the fight was against Kash Ali'. Kash Ali was attempting to mock Price for his loses within his career, Price responded to these taunts by saying 'If you had been what I have been through in my career, you would not still be fighting. You would not be here'.

    All those fighters you have just mentioned and tactically attempted to discredit and devalue as Champions 'To uplift Tyson Fury, and Deontay Wilder. Well the only reason why you are trying to uplift Wilder is to enhance Tyson Fury's reputation'.

    These fighters which you have tactically discredited for losing fights, as Champions while taking on all comers 'Were as Champions many times more tested and proven than Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder, in the opponents they fought the styles and challengers they had to overcome'.

    Tyson Fury statistically is nowhere near their level, and he is potentially one fight 'One Loss away from disappearing off this head to head all-time great radar, which many hardcore Fury fans seem to rely on'.

    Greater fighters than Tyson Fury, by far more brutal and possibly even more talented have lost fights when they were at extreme heights 'And the universal perception of them then almost altered by 180 degree's'.

    I am talking about fighters like Prince Naseem Hamed, who I believe shares similar in traits with Fury as a fighters 'When Hamed fought Barrera, he was a by far more bigger fighter than what Tyson Fury is now'.

    I have stated this before, the competition between Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua is not over 'Joshua has not gone away, if he keeps on winning and legitimately wins a big fight. He will most likely fight for a World title again'.

    Note: Overall I just don't think this era is over, we are in the latter stages 'Each fight matters, Fury is 1 fight away from ether greater or being thrown into the abyss that is the jeopardy at stake here'. Joshua has been thrown into the abyss, and he is not gone away 'As futile as people may perceive his efforts he is still here and fighting'.

    This should not take away from Joshua as a Champion, that should actually add to his resume if he is ever to legitimately fight his way back into title contention.

    Muhammad Ali was the last man standing from the 70's, Lennox Lewis was the last man standing from the late 80's and 90's, Kiltschko the last man standing from the post Lennox Lewis era 'Who is going to be the last man standing from this era?' etc.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-12-2023, 07:59 AM.

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    • juggernaut666
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      #12
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
      This era is in its latter stages, and the fact of the matter is? Joshua has been the only Champion who has taken on all comers, and then next in line after Joshua is Deontay Wilder 'Who to his credit did defend his WBC Title 10 times'.

      Neither Fury and Wilder for me, especially Fury 'They do not have the depth in their resumes, to maintain their universal perception after a loss' Right now people will not be able to accept or imagine this reality 'Because people are to caught up with living in the moment'.

      All those fighters you have just mentioned, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, George Foreman 'Yes they may have lost to lesser fighters, lesser fighters compared to them but they came back' That is the ultimate test of a Champion.

      I have theorized this before? If and when Tyson Fury loses a fight, there is a possibility that straight away he will look to get out of the game 'Fury has had one tough trilogy with one fighter in Wilder, and ever since that fight? He has seemingly been 50% looking to get out of the game'.

      David Price once stated, during the build up to one of his fights 'I believe the fight was against Kash Ali'. Kash Ali was attempting to mock Price for his loses within his career, Price responded to these taunts by saying 'If you had been what I have been through in my career, you would not still be fighting. You would not be here'.

      All those fighters you have just mentioned and tactically attempted to discredit and devalue as Champions 'To uplift Tyson Fury, and Deontay Wilder. Well the only reason why you are trying to uplift Wilder is to enhance Tyson Fury's reputation'.

      These fighters which you have tactically discredited for losing fights, as Champions while taking on all comers 'Were as Champions many times more tested and proven than Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder, in the opponents they fought the styles and challengers they had to overcome'.

      Tyson Fury statistically is nowhere near their level, and he is potentially one fight 'One Loss away from disappearing off this head to head all-time great radar, which many hardcore Fury fans seem to rely on'.

      Greater fighters than Tyson Fury, by far more brutal and possibly even more talented have lost fights when they were at extreme heights 'And the universal perception of them then almost altered by 180 degree's'.

      I am talking about fighters like Prince Naseem Hamed, who I believe shares similar in traits with Fury as a fighters 'When Hamed fought Barrera, he was a by far more bigger fighter than what Tyson Fury is now'.

      I have stated this before, the competition between Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua is not over 'Joshua has not gone away, if he keeps on winning and legitimately wins a big fight. He will most likely fight for a World title again'.

      Note: Overall I just don't think this era is over, we are in the latter stages 'Each fight matters, Fury is 1 fight away from ether greater or being thrown into the abyss that is the jeopardy at stake here'. Joshua has been thrown into the abyss, and he is not gone away 'As futile as people may perceive his efforts he is still here and fighting'.

      This should not take away from Joshua as a Champion, that should actually add to his resume if he is ever to legitimately fight his way back into title contention.

      Muhammad Ali was the last man standing from the 70's, Lennox Lewis was the last man standing from the late 80's and 90's, Kiltschko the last man standing from the post Lennox Lewis era 'Who is going to be the last man standing from this era?' etc.
      Imagine being the last man standing after having to run away from boxing for 3 years avoiding competition all together plus a rematch then having Chisora as one of only 3 title defenses and claiming this guy is the last man standing and of course being involved in a non title exhibition fight against a non ranked boxer not even in the equation ? This is the type of forum we’re on .

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      • Dr. Z
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        #13
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        Last edited by Dr. Z; 10-12-2023, 09:22 AM.

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        • Dr. Z
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          #14
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          Last edited by Dr. Z; 10-12-2023, 09:21 AM. Reason: Dup thread

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          • Dr. Z
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              #16
              Originally posted by Zaroku

              I am jealous of his physique

              butler want a cast mold of his chorizo
              - mangera — radiator hose


              I like Lennox Lewis much more!

              ​​​​​​I want some American person to be top dawg

              now we got Russians Ukrainians and Chinese dudes kicking azx

              I wish we had a bigger David tuair a kut Andy Ruiz to bring home the bacon


              I was watching old Lewis clips a few weeks ago, him and Rahman so him when he was in his 30s. Man he was so much more fluid than Joshua. Joshua looks stiff and robotic, a lot closer to a Kltichcko. Even lews with a bit of a belly he could still move around fluid like a... boxer.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #17
                Originally posted by elfag



                I was watching old Lewis clips a few weeks ago, him and Rahman so him when he was in his 30s. Man he was so much more fluid than Joshua. Joshua looks stiff and robotic, a lot closer to a Kltichcko. Even lews with a bit of a belly he could still move around fluid like a... boxer.
                - - AJ never sold off his titles to duck mandatories like Lewie did, and unlike Lewie who never defended his unified titles, AJ defended in many unified bouts. Moreover, he kept the titles intact to this very day.

                Hey, you go for the sissy oldies like Lewie. It's OK...

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                • Zaroku
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by elfag



                  I was watching old Lewis clips a few weeks ago, him and Rahman so him when he was in his 30s. Man he was so much more fluid than Joshua. Joshua looks stiff and robotic, a lot closer to a Kltichcko. Even lews with a bit of a belly he could still move around fluid like a... boxer.
                  Yes—- he gust was poetry in motion fluid


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