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  • #11
    Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
    Phuck outta here! Charlo never made adjustments because if he did one thing canelo had the answer, canelo made charlo fight the way he fought and don’t get that twisted. Bread says he saw the same Jermell be patient and “try” to make adjustments and score a late ko?! That’s laughable at best he def was very patient, but canelo never allowed mell any attempt to adjust or go for the knockout and I don’t care what no one says, that’s what I saw and the reason I believe it played out that way wasn’t because charlo didn’t try. It was because canelos power made him fight that way, it’s more to do with what canelo did then what jermell failed to do. You mean to tell me that had he won he would have gotten 100 million dollars worth of fights and knowing that he didn’t try? Nah, he wasn’t allowed to try…. Point blank period.
    And THAT.... was exactly why the first time super middleweight Jermell Charlo was chosen as an opponent and not Benavidez, Andrade or Morrell

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
      Another thing, any version of Floyd mayweather wouldn’t beat the 168 canelo. Weight classes matter, canelo would be too strong and would hurt Floyd with power shots and because of it the feint game would allow canelo to manipulate Floyd and run him into power shots all night until he would either get stopped or lose by decision if he chose to survive which I could see him surviving because he’s one of the greatest defensive boxers ever.
      That's your opinion and you may be right, but since we're doing the what if thing...What if Floyd wasn't 36 and instead in his prime, would he have KOed Canelo? Unfortunately we'll never know because Floyd wasn't prime and he beat Canelo fair and square and decisively .

      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
      Canelo at 152 didn’t have the power he has now, and the experience. It’s day and night. Bread knows that, he just ducked the answer. I don’t know my ass… he chose to not know lol pathetic
      Canelo's experience at getting bested by a smaller, better fighter at a catch weight is why he demands that all smaller guys come up to were he has the strength and weight advantage. That said, I assure you that Canelo is not going to extend the same invitation to Crawford (not because Crawford is Mexican) because Crawford is better than Charlo and beating him is not a guarantee
      Last edited by factsarenice; 10-07-2023, 03:26 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
        100% on Charlo. He tried but his style was all wrong for Canelo.
        I agree 100%. The day of announcement I saw the stylistic mismatch and so did most fighters, fans and commentators. Thing is, so did Canelo and Reynoso and maybe even Charlo but for 8 million he said screw it. If you remember, the entire community thought it was Jermall and shocked when they found out it was the little Charlo. Nobody thought Jermell was a challenge, it wasn't until they cranked up the echo chamber and his height became the deciding factor as if 6ft 6 Fundora might be the next light heavyweight champion.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
          Breadman, there's no rebuilding or rebounding for Spence, he's done as a top A fighter after that destructive, beat down vs T-Bud.

          Only thing for Spence to do now is to enter "business mode" from here on out, take some easy fights and maximize his earning potential before retirement.

          Spence needs to stay away from Crawford at any weight and Bud needs stay and finish his career at 147.

          T-Bud don't have the frame for 154.
          I disagree, no fighter at 154 today is going to beat Crawford but time will. If Charlo goes back to 154 for the other belt it will be early 2024 and even if he wins, if there is a rematch... Crawford won't get the fight until 2025....and that's too late.
          Last edited by factsarenice; 10-07-2023, 04:25 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
            First, I feel for fans that bought into the marketing that are now disappointed. I get that, the fight was not as marketed but make no mistake, it was exactly as designed. More over, laying this at Charlo's feet and giving Canelo a pass is EXACTLY why there are no competitive fights, because they aren't necessary. Just look at the facts..... Canelo holds the purse strings, Canelo hand picks the opponent, Canelo chooses the time and weight and terms and testing and location...everything. Sure Jermell Charlo took the 8 mil...and so would everyone, including me, you and your favorite fighter...

            Charlo had 2 choices, throw caution into the wind and risk real life changing damage or continue doing what he was doing and take the loss .

            The real question....Why was Charlo picked at all? Was there no other opponent for Canelo? Could the opponent have been closer weight and talent. Was there no one else begging to face Canelo that might have presented a better challenge? Or was Charlo just a very beatable name marketed as a potential threat because of his height? The day the fight was announced most agreed it was a mismatch right up until the marketing machine kicked in and all of a sudden Chalo was the threat.... not Morrel, Benavidez, Andrade or Plant.

            So here we are, deprived of a life altering Kirkland style beating for our entertainment. Who's at fault. is it the player or the game? If you don't like being fed these noncompetitive fights then STOP paying for them and the menu will change.
            Canelo is clearly the one at fault. If you look at his opponents and their conditions which made Canelo go for them, it's been consistent for years. His whole career has been built on it.

            Benavidez comes only when he shows himself to be too drained at SM and not a second before. Canelo only wants the perception. With the boxing world as ****** as it clearly is, they deserve all of this. They played their part in turning the sport into this grotesque, fraudulent cesspit.
            Last edited by Sid-Knee; 10-07-2023, 06:10 PM.

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            • #16
              Canelo never fights black fighters, doe.

              Now the black community has disowned Jermell Charlo. Lol.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                And THAT.... was exactly why the first time super middleweight Jermell Charlo was chosen as an opponent and not Benavidez, Andrade or Morrell
                If / when canelo fights anyone, regardless if it’s those names you mentioned you’ll have a reason to discredit it as to why that fight got made if they do get made. This been going on for years, you haters will always hate, the man can only fight one person at a time. Living legend. Regardless of your approval or not. Yall goofy af

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                  That's your opinion and you may be right, but since we're doing the what if thing...What if Floyd wasn't 36 and instead in his prime, would he have KOed Canelo? Unfortunately we'll never know because Floyd wasn't prime and he beat Canelo fair and square and decisively .



                  Canelo's experience at getting bested by a smaller, better fighter at a catch weight is why he demands that all smaller guys come up to were he has the strength and weight advantage. That said, I assure you that Canelo is not going to extend the same invitation to Crawford (not because Crawford is Mexican) because Crawford is better than Charlo and beating him is not a guarantee
                  Just like Floyd made him come down to 52 instead of 54 right? When Floyd had already faced others at the full 54… when you don’t have anymore water weight to lose those 2 pounds are harder to lose then 20 pounds of water weight. Why do that to the inexperienced 23 year old? Look at the end of the day if Floyd had the balls to think he could beat canelo now he’d make the fight and charge his millions. It’s not that easy, he’d get washed and to answer your question, no version of Mayweather at ANY weight stops any version of canelo at ANY weight! Period lol tf?! Canelo has an all time great Chin… ALL TIME! The phuck pillow fist Floyd gonna do? Phuck outta here

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                  • #19
                    Breadman doesn't want to answer the question regarding current 168 lbs Canelo VS prime Mayweather because he knows that Canelo would win.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                      That's your opinion and you may be right, but since we're doing the what if thing...What if Floyd wasn't 36 and instead in his prime, would he have KOed Canelo? Unfortunately we'll never know because Floyd wasn't prime and he beat Canelo fair and square and decisively .



                      Canelo's experience at getting bested by a smaller, better fighter at a catch weight is why he demands that all smaller guys come up to were he has the strength and weight advantage. That said, I assure you that Canelo is not going to extend the same invitation to Crawford (not because Crawford is Mexican) because Crawford is better than Charlo and beating him is not a guarantee
                      I guarantee you canelo beats bud at 68. If it gets made, Put money on it or stfu

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