The Klitschko brothers Gain Weight during training camp...ODD

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  • warp1432
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    #11
    Well both have Dr. degrees in medical science and so I think they both would know the harmlful effects of steroids. Plus Vitali was busted for them in 96, so I definietly don't think Wladmir would. I don't really think Vitali is on them either.

    There are drug tests for this type of thing and they've both passed them.

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    • Derranged
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      #12
      Whatever the case is, Wladimir has fought nothing but title fights since 2006, never tested positive for anything illegal.

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #13
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Well both have Dr. degrees in medical science and so I think they both would know the harmlful effects of steroids. Plus Vitali was busted for them in 96, so I definietly don't think Wladmir would. I don't really think Vitali is on them either.

        There are drug tests for this type of thing and they've both passed them.
        Actually, because they have medical degrees they would more than likely know about PEDs. They would also know the correct way to use them without harm. It's not knowing how to use them that tends to be the reason why they have ill effects. Like any drug you take or food you eat you have to know how much and what to consume in your body to prevent harmful effects.

        Drug Tests: They are easy to pass, especially the boxing tests that are not year round or random. And of course you have a lot of undetectable steroids/PEDs that allow athletes to pass.

        Not using PEDs would be set by them based on their own mind-set and responsibility they may feel.

        Vitali failed before for steroids and has already admitted so and why he failed which I think was based on him not knowing what the Doctor gave him which was to help him heal for an injury from kickboxing...which is reasonable considering the era. After going through that it may have deterred any future possible use of PEDs...or at least with unkowingly using something that he didn't know about that the Doctor may prescribe to him.



        Now with Medical degrees they would also have advantages in understanding how they body works...how their body works in particular...and how to get the most out of it through natural means which could also prevent use of PEDs because their confidence can be set through understanding of how to get the best out of themselves without illegal means.
        Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-05-2009, 07:21 PM.

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        • alexpz
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          Another thread that suspects boxers of using illegal drugs without any proof or evidence.. Are you trying to discredit the Klitschko brothers?

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          • Hitman932
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            #15
            If the Klitschkos are ever proven to have taken PED's in the last 5 years I will never watch boxing again and I will chop off my **** with a cleaver.

            Thats how confident I am that they are on the up and up.

            Gaining 10 pounds over the course of 5 weeks hardly would require a PED. Klitschko can probably eat a big meal and gain 5 he is so lean to start with.

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #16
              Originally posted by alexpz
              Another thread that suspects boxers of using illegal drugs without any proof or evidence.. Are you trying to discredit the Klitschko brothers?
              EVERY ATHLETE IS SUSPECT IN THIS ERA...as well as any era that has access to PEDs/steroids.



              From my third post in the thread:

              The Topic also touches on how fans see the modern athletes. How much trust is in them being "natural". And it is something I am interested in.
              Not boxers...but athletes in general.


              I'm trying to gauge how people view athletes today.
              Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-05-2009, 07:28 PM.

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              • The Hammer
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                #17
                Originally posted by Derranged
                Whatever the case is, Wladimir has fought nothing but title fights since 2006, never tested positive for anything illegal.
                And neither has Manny Pacquiao.

                Remember when Floyd Mayweather Sr accused Pacman of being on steroids without any evidence whatsoever?

                What would Floyd Sr be like if he had a brain? Answer: Benny Leonard.

                Yes, he'd probably have created some complex conspiracy theory about Manny using illegal means to prepare himself for each fight, but then say he hopes it isn't true.

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                • alexpz
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  If the Klitschkos are ever proven to have taken PED's in the last 5 years I will never watch boxing again and I will chop off my **** with a cleaver.

                  Thats how confident I am that they are on the up and up.

                  Gaining 10 pounds over the course of 5 weeks hardly would require a PED. Klitschko can probably eat a big meal and gain 5 he is so lean to start with.
                  OH my.. don't be to serious in doing it you will lose your life... lolz..

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                  • alexpz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    EVERY ATHLETE IS SUSPECT IN THIS ERA...as well as any era that has access to PEDs/steroids.



                    From my third post in the thread:



                    Not boxers...but athletes in general.


                    I'm trying to gage how people view athletes today.
                    Ok I get your point but this is boxingscene. We are talking boxers in here..

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                    • Benny Leonard
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Carnivore
                      And neither has Manny Pacquiao.

                      Remember when Floyd Mayweather Sr accused Pacman of being on steroids without any evidence whatsoever?

                      What would Floyd Sr be like if he had a brain? Answer: Benny Leonard.

                      Yes, he'd probably have created some complex conspiracy theory about Manny using illegal means to prepare himself for each fight, but then say he hopes it isn't true.
                      Sr. is saying the increase weight gain and getting "bigger, stronger, faster...better" resembles the use of PEDs and since many athletes have been caught either through drug testing or through busts of other means...everybody that fits that descpription is suspect in today's era....but hopes it isn't true because it is a good story if true as well as it being bad for boxing if true.

                      You can still be on PEDs and come up "clean" in tests.


                      What Sr. lacks may be in modern sports-training/nutrition knowledge of how to make any athlete fit that description and do it through "natural" means. Now, how much have we come is still unclear to many on the outside given the numbers that come up with top athletes for use of steroids/PEDs as well as suspected use.
                      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-05-2009, 07:34 PM.

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