Do you think Kostya Tszyu would have...

[BennyST]

The things your missing is he never fought anybody of Pacs ability no one even close and he got beat by fighters Pac would demolish , Floyd would beat him easier than Pac , go and look at the Phillips fight , the lightweight Leija fight and also the Hector Lopez fight and then tell me Pac cant win .

Why bring up Mayweather in this? Do you really need to talk about him in every god damned thread you make? Is he that important to you?

Anyway, go look at the Judah fight, the Rodriguez fight, the Mitchell fights, the Santos fight, and the Ismael Chavez fight. Unlike each and every guy you mentioned above, they were actually all southpaws instead of orthodox as were all the guys above.

I don't disagree that Floyd wouldn't beat him. What's that got to do with Pac though? Man, why the hell are you trying to turn this into a Floyd related thread? This is about Tszyu and Pac, not your weird obsession with Mayweather.

Anyway, Lopez got beat by a 10 fight Tszyu, and while he showed his inexperience as a pro toward the end, he still won that fight easily. A 34 year old Tszyu, after injury problems and nearly a year of inactivity still knocked out Leija in six rounds and Leija had just come off one of his biggest wins over Micky Ward to get the shot. What's your point exactly?

Phillips beat him. Bad fight for Tszyu. Great.

Again though, what do any of these fights have to do with Pac? A smaller southpaw that doesn't even slightly like any of the above mentioned fighters and even struggles to fight inside well? Actually the opposite of each and every guy mentioned above.

I'll also counter your weak argument about Tszyu losing to worse fighters than Pac by saying that Pac also lost and got knocked out by much worse fighters than Tszyu. What's your point?

Seriously man, the hate and obsession with Tszyu is weird. You're in every thread that comes up about him ranting that he couldn't beat anyone.

He had just thirty four pro fights. He lost two. Nearly twenty of those were title fights. He was the champ, and a top ten P4P ranked fighter for a decade with sixteen world champions beaten. He was the first to unify his division in over thirty years and held the undisputed title for five years. He was a great champ mate. Get over it.

[RodBarker]

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Why bring up Mayweather in this? Do you really need to talk about him in every god damned thread you make? Is he that important to you?

Anyway, go look at the Judah fight, the Rodriguez fight, the Mitchell fights, the Santos fight, and the Ismael Chavez fight. Unlike each and every guy you mentioned above, they were actually all southpaws instead of orthodox as were all the guys above.

I don't disagree that Floyd wouldn't beat him. What's that got to do with Pac though? Man, why the hell are you trying to turn this into a Floyd related thread? This is about Tszyu and Pac, not your weird obsession with Mayweather.

Anyway, Lopez got beat by a 10 fight Tszyu, and while he showed his inexperience as a pro toward the end, he still won that fight easily. A 34 year old Tszyu, after injury problems and nearly a year of inactivity still knocked out Leija in six rounds and Leija had just come off one of his biggest wins over Micky Ward to get the shot. What's your point exactly?

Phillips beat him. Bad fight for Tszyu. Great.

Again though, what do any of these fights have to do with Pac? A smaller southpaw that doesn't even slightly like any of the above mentioned fighters and even struggles to fight inside well? Actually the opposite of each and every guy mentioned above.

I'll also counter your weak argument about Tszyu losing to worse fighters than Pac by saying that Pac also lost and got knocked out by much worse fighters than Tszyu. What's your point?

Seriously man, the hate and obsession with Tszyu is weird. You're in every thread that comes up about him ranting that he couldn't beat anyone.

He had just thirty four pro fights. He lost two. Nearly twenty of those were title fights. He was the champ, and a top ten P4P ranked fighter for a decade with sixteen world champions beaten. He was the first to unify his division in over thirty years and held the undisputed title for five years. He was a great champ mate. Get over it.

LOL , mate read what you write and then tell me your not a KT closest fan , I jump into threads because he is overrated and not near the best 140 of all time for all the reasons I said , its those comments that bring me into these KT threads , fact is bud Phillips beat him easy Hector Lopez was not an easy win showed many flaws in KT , Phillips wouldnt touch Pac , Hatton beat KT and Pac blew him away , the lefties you mention dont come to Pacs knees in ability even when they were prime not like them the many that were shot when KT fought them , and thats my point KT never fought anyone of Pacs level and you need to get over it mate because Ive never ever said he was not a top fighter I just dont put a halo around his head like you do , its this all time great stuff and how he is gunna KO everybody when he got beat by lesser fighters than who is gunna blow away , thats the **** I cant handle , Floyd was mentioned because its often brought up in the board about a KT vs Floyd fight and I reckon is a real easy fight for Floyd where Pac wont be so easy for Floyd , just part of the triangle theory bud dont take it to heart .

[poeticlsykuac]

The things your missing is he never fought anybody of Pacs ability no one even close and he got beat by fighters Pac would demolish , Floyd would beat him easier than Pac , go and look at the Phillips fight , the lightweight Leija fight and also the Hector Lopez fight and then tell me Pac cant win .

You are ridiculous just end your posts to this now. You need to go look at KTs record realize how many champions and ex-champions are on his resume. Now add the fact that DLH, Mosley, and Mayweather wanted nothing to with this guy. Mosley outright skipped the division. He never fought at 140, who ducked who? Mayweather had his shot and truly respected KT, even said so in an interview that was shown around here. Mayweather had a short career at 140. DLH was never as good as we made him out to be, he lost to Quartey IMO. DLH may not have had a shot at KT. DLH had a short lived 140 pound life. You need to go rewatch this guy in his prime he was a Professional, systematic and slowly but steadily took your weapons away.

Second Judah is far more talented then Pac(at 140). He had devastating one punch power at 140. Not punches in bunches but Judah could literally hit you with one punch and end the fight. Pac is strong and impressive but punch for punch Judah hit harder and may have even been faster. Judah never had a brain but he was extremely talented.

Throw Pac in with a Shramba Mitchell, a confident 23 year old Judah, a prime KT, Pac just would have his hands full. You seem to have no idea what was going on at 140 during that time period. KT ruled that division NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Pac has never once had that. Say all you want Pac has never unified belts and beat all contenders coming his way. He has left questions after leaving every division, no questions could be asked about 140 for his reign we all knew who ruled it.

Now go look at the Phillips fight and realize that Phillips used his size and he was a right hander two things that would work in favor of him and not in favor of Pac. Pac is not stronger then Phillips. This is a bad stylistic match up. Think Marquez-Pac now add a one hit home run punch to Marquez and think of what would have happened to Pac.

Mitchell was very slick, quick, lil pop, and very smart south paul, KT says good night. Judah fast, quick, slick, and a ton of power south paul, KT says good night. I fear Pac would get KO'd perhaps have his career crushed like Judah, Mitchell, and so many others.

You have to realize KT has probably the hardest punch ever at the 140 pound division. I do not think he was the best 140 pounder ever that is crazy with guys like The Hawk, Duran, JCC, Sweet Pea, you can't give him that title, but he does deserve to be recognized as a 140 pound great regardless.

Please stop posting against this as you appear to be nothing more then a boxing novice with your unintelligent poorly researched statements.

[RodBarker]

You are ridiculous just end your posts to this now. You need to go look at KTs record realize how many champions and ex-champions are on his resume. Now add the fact that DLH, Mosley, and Mayweather wanted nothing to with this guy. Mosley outright skipped the division. He never fought at 140, who ducked who? Mayweather had his shot and truly respected KT, even said so in an interview that was shown around here. Mayweather had a short career at 140. DLH was never as good as we made him out to be, he lost to Quartey IMO. DLH may not have had a shot at KT. DLH had a short lived 140 pound life. You need to go rewatch this guy in his prime he was a Professional, systematic and slowly but steadily took your weapons away.

Second Judah is far more talented then Pac(at 140). He had devastating one punch power at 140. Not punches in bunches but Judah could literally hit you with one punch and end the fight. Pac is strong and impressive but punch for punch Judah hit harder and may have even been faster. Judah never had a brain but he was extremely talented.

Throw Pac in with a Shramba Mitchell, a confident 23 year old Judah, a prime KT, Pac just would have his hands full. You seem to have no idea what was going on at 140 during that time period. KT ruled that division NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Pac has never once had that. Say all you want Pac has never unified belts and beat all contenders coming his way. He has left questions after leaving every division, no questions could be asked about 140 for his reign we all knew who ruled it.

Now go look at the Phillips fight and realize that Phillips used his size and he was a right hander two things that would work in favor of him and not in favor of Pac. Pac is not stronger then Phillips. This is a bad stylistic match up. Think Marquez-Pac now add a one hit home run punch to Marquez and think of what would have happened to Pac.

Mitchell was very slick, quick, lil pop, and very smart south paul, KT says good night. Judah fast, quick, slick, and a ton of power south paul, KT says good night. I fear Pac would get KO'd perhaps have his career crushed like Judah, Mitchell, and so many others.

You have to realize KT has probably the hardest punch ever at the 140 pound division. I do not think he was the best 140 pounder ever that is crazy with guys like The Hawk, Duran, JCC, Sweet Pea, you can't give him that title, but he does deserve to be recognized as a 140 pound great regardless.

Please stop posting against this as you appear to be nothing more then a boxing novice with your unintelligent poorly researched statements.

He got flogged by Philliips and refused to fight him again and quit on his stool ,, end of story bud !!

[The_Demon]

kostya > pac at 140
anyone who says otherwise doesnt know s*it about boxing,so dont bother replying too me children.

[BALLISTIC]

Youre certain that Pac wouldve won against Tszyu? You also have the nerve to ask if Tszyu couldve went more than 2 rounds against Pac? I think Tszyu wouldve knocked Pac the **** out

i call BULL****...tszyu slow speed will get hit 100000x b4 he knows he's been hit...

[The_Demon]

i call BULL****...tszyu slow speed will get hit 100000x b4 he knows he's been hit...

you fail "peeleft:

[BALLISTIC]

you fail "peeleft:

i fail??...tell me why tsyu lost to hatton...nuff said..
and tell me why hatton lost to pacman..

fight explains it all...

[The_Demon]

i fail??...tell me why tsyu lost to hatton...nuff said..
and tell me why hatton lost to pacman..

fight explains it all...

haha
triangle theories dont work in boxing,its called styles make fights,for example
mosley,cotto,marg or taylor/pavlik/bhop too name a few
we are talking about prime tsyzu here,dont get confused

[Benncollinsaad]

i fail??...tell me why tsyu lost to hatton...nuff said..
and tell me why hatton lost to pacman..

fight explains it all...

Tszyu lost to Hatton because he was too old and Hatton lost to Pacman because he was too eager and ******. Satisfied?